Liberation wrote:Hi Sarah,
I was just wondering if there are any new materials on abx treatment of MS since we last talked. That time we talked about that I would be happy to connect either your husband or someone from the Vanderbilt team with my neuro who is not against the idea of bacterial infection playing a role in MS. I am sure that an open minded neuro would be able to draw some important conclusions on whom to treat and interpret results with the help of an abx expert.
I can not understand why Anecdote gives such an one-sided opinion on abx. I have followed this section for a while, but I noticed that she always plays down any problems that others in the forum raised and did not come out any data on the effectiveness of abx on MS. Doctors have reservation about the long-term use of abx in the Wheldon protocol. I haven't seen any study that refutes that. Is dr. Wheldon a practicing physician? Are you, Anecdote a doctor? Is there any study that shows that the Wheldon protocol is safe and does not harm the microbiome and therefore our natural defence system? ...I do not even mention the results, as I hear only anecdotes, not even a small study is presented.
CuriousRobot wrote:This accusatory, ultimately absurd, behavior Gogo is exhibiting merely highlights his lack of critical reasoning skills.
It's quite obvious, Gogo. You can practically find all the material you are asking for on PubMed. Using Wheldon's website (which also includes citations to numerous publications) will direct your search for the appropriate ones. When you have all these nice publications opened in your internet browser and look towards the bottom right, you'll be able to find related works (publications that either cite the main work or comment on it); in other words, more material with which to strengthen your knowledge base. Once you have garnered all this material, the next step would be to book an appointment with an Infectious Disease doctor, who is perfectly comfortable prescribing antibiotics in the long-term, to whom you ultimately have to present this information that you have assembled. If you go to a few doctors who don't specialize in this area, and get turned around or laughed out the door, are you really that surprised that they don't feel comfortable prescribing and monitoring such a patient, being that they only have a cursory knowledge of antibiotic protocols? Your allegiance towards the concept of "incurable" autoimmune-driven MS, reverence for doctors (as if they contain some especial knowledge that non-MDs cannot comprehend; after all, what were they prior to becoming Doctors of Medicine [certainly not originating from a social caste one has to be born into]) and caustic attitude towards Sarah and the others here totally illustrate not only your lack of critical reasoning skills but intelligence as well.Gogo wrote:So, who lacks critical reasonong skills????
CuriousRobot wrote:Your allegiance towards the concept of "incurable" autoimmune-driven MS, reverence for doctors (as if they contain some especial knowledge that non-MDs cannot comprehend; after all, what were they prior to becoming Doctors of Medicine [certainly not originating from a social caste one has to be born into]) and caustic attitude towards Sarah and the others here totally illustrate not only your lack of critical reasoning skills but intelligence as well.
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