MONEY IN ADVANCE

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MONEY IN ADVANCE

Postby INONU » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:59 am

BONJOUR5 A TOUS



Dear MSers

FOR YOUR INFORMATION

I just receive this email and I am very sceptical . Some one of us has an explanation!!!!!!! Who listen about Marek Chorąży.tHEY ASK ABOUT MONEY AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TEST I AM GOING TO DO! AMAZING
Thanks to all. Be lucky


Dear Sirs,

As your endovascular procedure at Euromedic is approaching, we'd like to
present you with more details of your examination and procedure dates. Your
MRV examination will take place on 2nd March and your procedure on 3rd
March.
Please do not book your accommodation on your own, as the
accommodation and transportation from/to the airport as well as around
Katowice is included in the package of treatment. The pricelist is enclosed.
Please send us your flight details so that we can collect you from the
airport.

Please book your flight : arrival at Katowice-Pyrzowice or Kraków - Balice
airport for 1st March(the lastest) and departure for 6th March or later -
the package includes 5 nights in a double room - pricelist included. Please
advice us if the patient uses a wheelchair.

Within 2 weeks we'll send you account number where we kindly request to pay
the amount of 6 900 euro. Prove of payment is necessary to be presented in
hospital.

Shall you have further questions, do not hesitate to contact us.


Kind regards,
--
Marek Chorąży
Patient Coordinator
Euromedic Poland


AND A SECOND EMAIL

Dear Sirs

In attachment I'm sending pricelist of examination and procedure.

Marek Chorąży

Katowice, 21 January 2010



Dear Sirs,



We kindly inform you that due to increased costs of medical insurance and costs of clinical researches, we have to change the price of Liberation Treatment (CCSVI) method. New price also includes transportation and part of accommodation costs during your stay in Poland. We have decided to cover non-medical areas with our assistance to increase performance of the Clinic and to shorten the waiting time for the procedure.

Since 25th January 2010 the costs will amount to:
 6 900 euro : angioplasty with stenting – 1 stent (if more than one stent is placed, each additional stent costs 500 euro)
 6 400 euro : angioplasty

The price includes:
 Vascular surgeon/angiologist consultation
 Color Doppler ultrasound examination
 MRI examination
 Endovascular procedure (angioplasty or stenting)
 introductory consultation with the leading doctor
 5-night stay in 4-star hotel (breakfast included)
 Transportation to the examination and procedure facilities (Doppler, MRI, surgery)
 Transportation from/to Pyrzowice (Katowice) or Balice (Kraków) Airport
 EuroMedic personnel assist during your stay
 telephone hot-line assistance

 If for medical reasons angioplasty or stenting cannot be performed the package price amounts to:
 2 700 euro : Full diagnostics with phlebography
1 800 euro : color Doppler ultrasound and MRI examination





Best regards,


Tomasz Ludyga
Director of EuroMedic
Specialist Clinics[/u]
my daughter ms'patient since 2001
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Postby whyRwehere » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:33 pm

I have not dealt with Poland, but I do think it cheeky to ask for money in advance and to tell you where to stay. I would insist on paying when I was there, if I were you.
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Postby zinamaria » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:07 pm

Unless someone can verify this, it sounds all too familiar to the scams I get sometimes on the internet...I would NEVER send money in advance per this message. I am not sorry to be suspicious or skeptical as to the authenticity of this entry.

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Postby INONU » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:24 pm

Thank you Why... and Zina

I try to contact some friends in Poland to be sure that it is scam, but of course I 'll never paid before .Be careful all.
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Postby mila77 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:44 pm

INONU wrote:Thank you Why... and Zina

I try to contact some friends in Poland to be sure that it is scam, but of course I 'll never paid before .Be careful all.
God bless you


Hi INONU, you dont have to be suspisious abut this money issue. The rules have just changed. There was discussion on this topic also on Polish forums. Polish people were also asked to pay in advance (wire transfer to the bank accout) and after the treatment they either had to pay more (for instance if more stents were inserted) or they were getting some money back if it was just balooning.

Yesterday, I was in Katowice for my first examination doppler-color USG and I was asking about it at the reception in Euromedic clinic so it is not a scum.

I dont know why those rules changed, maybe there were some cases where it turned out after procedure that people didnt have the money to pay for it. I realy dont know what is the reason behind it.

Of course u dont have to believe me since I just created my account and this is my first post on this forum but believe me I mean no harm to anybody. It would be even better for me if people think it is a scum and will stop paying, maybe I would be able to skip some places in the huge line and get my tretment earlier ;-)

Wish u luck in your journey and if u have any questions concerning Poland I would be more then happy to answer. :wink:
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Postby cah » Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:05 pm

From what I have heard, mila is right. No scam this time, though being critical is never a failure.

Someone also mentioned they have decided to organise accommodation and transportation to prevent delay in their schedules. I think that's ok, compared to a hospital where you have no choice either... I guess that they have chosen a hotel nearby, so everything is easier, they can get there quickly if needed, and the staff will be accustomed to MS patients.
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Postby Maestro » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:15 pm

Hi INONU,
I received on Friday same emails with different dates (the other email was actualy attached word document). I am booked for 10 and 11 March. Now I am waiting for the account number, too.

:D I know it is all very new for Dr Simka's team, hope everything will go well for all of us.
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Postby Megi » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:36 am

mila77 wrote:
INONU wrote:Thank you Why... and Zina

I try to contact some friends in Poland to be sure that it is scam, but of course I 'll never paid before .Be careful all.
God bless you


Hi INONU, you dont have to be suspisious abut this money issue. The rules have just changed. There was discussion on this topic also on Polish forums. Polish people were also asked to pay in advance (wire transfer to the bank accout) and after the treatment they either had to pay more (for instance if more stents were inserted) or they were getting some money back if it was just balooning.

Yesterday, I was in Katowice for my first examination doppler-color USG and I was asking about it at the reception in Euromedic clinic so it is not a scum.

I dont know why those rules changed, maybe there were some cases where it turned out after procedure that people didnt have the money to pay for it. I realy dont know what is the reason behind it.

Of course u dont have to believe me since I just created my account and this is my first post on this forum but believe me I mean no harm to anybody. It would be even better for me if people think it is a scum and will stop paying, maybe I would be able to skip some places in the huge line and get my tretment earlier ;-)

Wish u luck in your journey and if u have any questions concerning Poland I would be more then happy to answer. :wink:



Hi mila77,
Could you please post Polish forum link where you have seen discussion about paying in advance to EuroMedic in Katowice?
Thank you
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Postby Richardk » Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:06 pm

I have just returned from Katowice where I had the test and treatment (angioplasty on right Jug and azygous)....I received a similar email regarding costs, and everything was genuine....for me, coming from Vancouver, it was helpful to have the transportation included in the price, as previously it seemed difficult finding by yourself the right location for the tests, especially the location for the MRV....Marek and Marta are very helpful....Marek also pointed out that they are inundated w/ emails...which sometimes question why no response has been sent for an email sent an hour earlier...so sending only essential emails gives them the chance to organize better

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Postby pgm1 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:51 pm

Hi Richard

I hope you are well and the trip was a success :)

I am now waiting for the e-mail to tell me how to pay and hopefully the appointment times.I still feel a little uneasy about paying in advance.i understand why but uneasy.

Yes it does take time but I'm getting used to being patient.

Pam :)
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Postby mila77 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:12 pm

"Hi mila77,
Could you please post Polish forum link where you have seen discussion about paying in advance to EuroMedic in Katowice?
Thank you"

Hi Megi,

Sorry that it took me so long but here are liks to Polish forum where we talked about making payments in advance. I pasted only 2 links because thread has over 100 pages now and there is no search tool so I had to look for those information page by page :-(

Link below - WojtaZ71 is talking about making payment in advance (by the way he is after procedure now and evejrything went according to plan)
http://stwardnieniesmrozsiane.ok1.pl/vi ... start=1275

And here is discussion on how much money they will give you back in case there is no procedure (just doppler, MRV and flebography) but I guess prices might be slightly different for Polish as most people here dont need accomodation and transport arranged by Euromedic
http://stwardnieniesmrozsiane.ok1.pl/vi ... start=1440
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