Valve Regeneration as a Vein Angioplasty ISSUE

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Valve Regeneration as a Vein Angioplasty ISSUE

Postby Rici » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:09 pm

It's unfortunate, but it seems Dr. Franz von Schelling's predictions are starting to become reality. He told me I won't be the last one affected by complications caused by eliminating jugular vein valves. Two other people have similar problems after right vein angioplasty.
According to Dr. Schelling right vein is much more important than the left one. Blood from the right side has a longer distance to the heart and if you do not have the valves in the right vein then it bounces back to the brain. You can find his opinion on my web page www.rici-ms.com. My case is a good example of that. Besides opening up the jugular vein, doctors need to consider valve regeneration. According to Dr. Schelling, only such complex approach to the issue will bring us closer to a solution.

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Postby mrhodes40 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:35 pm

Hi Rici
I have been wondering how you are, thanks for the update. SO Dr Schelling believes that ballooning or destroying the valve if it seems necessary (ie an upside down valve) in the lower jugular area results in more problems for the MS brain if it should not restore normal valve function? Do i understand his position?

This is interesting and to be honest with you I personally expect a lot of information like this to be uncovered and discovered over the coming years. I have said repeatedly that the surgery which people get 10 years from now will not at all resemble what those of us first in line got. I bet there will be a lot of debate over this; it was thought until recently this was a valveless system!

Jugular valves are sort of "new" and as I understand it not everyone even has them.

Did you get your new vein and valve yet?
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Postby Rici » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:57 pm

I described everything exactly on my website ( www.rici-ms.com ). Together with the position of Dr. Schelling, in my case. Everything predicted in advance. I talk with him for hours. This is a very good man. Our good guardian angel. Even said, was that housing sales, it will help me financially! Regeneration valve to a big step in the treatment of M.S. I have the Professor, what I do. Not in Poland.
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Postby lucky125 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:23 pm

This is very interesting, and concerning- and I don't really understand what you are actually saying!

Is this problem ONLY if the angioplasty destroys a valve in the right IJV? Or does it cause a problem no matter where in the r. IJV the stenosis is resolved?

Can you or Marie please explain it for dummies like me?

Thank you so much!
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Postby Rici » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:59 pm

lucky125 wrote:This is very interesting, and concerning- and I don't really understand what you are actually saying!

Is this problem ONLY if the angioplasty destroys a valve in the right IJV? Or does it cause a problem no matter where in the r. IJV the stenosis is resolved?

Can you or Marie please explain it for dummies like me?

Thank you so much!

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Postby Reytan » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:24 pm

Please correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding a valve destruction in the right IJV cased by angioplasty is the real concern here. It has the direct impact on the hypothalamus and a broad range of functions it controls.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamus.
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Postby Cece » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:19 pm

This is worrisome...I consider central fever among the bad 'adverse outcomes' that we've heard about so far. It sounds like there has been three total cases of this? Are they all in Poland or Italy?
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Postby lucky125 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:24 pm

Rici wrote:
lucky125 wrote:This is very interesting, and concerning- and I don't really understand what you are actually saying!

Is this problem ONLY if the angioplasty destroys a valve in the right IJV? Or does it cause a problem no matter where in the r. IJV the stenosis is resolved?

Can you or Marie please explain it for dummies like me?

Thank you so much!

You have p.m. Polish
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are telling me :oops:
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Postby Opera » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:36 am

Ricci

Was this problem casued by angiplasty or stenting -Sorry I am not sure I understand what has happened.
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Postby Rici » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:22 am

Opera wrote:Ricci

Was this problem casued by angiplasty or stenting -Sorry I am not sure I understand what has happened.

You described everything on my website. Pay attention to dates on photos - 19.X & 21.XII
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Postby Rici » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:30 am

lucky125 wrote:
Rici wrote:
lucky125 wrote:This is very interesting, and concerning- and I don't really understand what you are actually saying!

Is this problem ONLY if the angioplasty destroys a valve in the right IJV? Or does it cause a problem no matter where in the r. IJV the stenosis is resolved?

Can you or Marie please explain it for dummies like me?

Thank you so much!

You have p.m. Polish
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Sorry. I was at your location - Poland ! So I wrote to you in Polish, sorry, sorry, sorry !
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Postby LR1234 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:08 am

Hi Rici,
I have just got back from Poland and Dr Simka says he can see some flow issues with my right vein. I had my left vein angioplasted but the right vein was not touched because it was "normal". Do you think the left angioplasty could have caused a problem with my right vein flow? Is that what Dr Schelling is suggesting?

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Postby Rici » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:43 am

LR1234 wrote:Hi Rici,
I have just got back from Poland and Dr Simka says he can see some flow issues with my right vein. I had my left vein angioplasted but the right vein was not touched because it was "normal". Do you think the left angioplasty could have caused a problem with my right vein flow? Is that what Dr Schelling is suggesting?

Thanks

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It is not as simple. Well, not moved from the right side. The right is longer lived. The complications on my website, incl. Dr. Schelling's wrote
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Postby greyman » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:57 pm

Something seems strange in this theory.
So, assuming that one has a properly working valve in their IJV and during extensive workout this valve closes the entrance for the blood back to the brain, then how would it work? The blood would then ping-pong between the valve and the heart? It just doesn't hold together.
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Postby Rici » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:05 pm

greyman wrote:Something seems strange in this theory.
So, assuming that one has a properly working valve in their IJV and during extensive workout this valve closes the entrance for the blood back to the brain, then how would it work? The blood would then ping-pong between the valve and the heart? It just doesn't hold together.


During baloning eliminates venous valve.
Dr. Schelling wrote:
"Central fever comes off in MS (like after arterial blockages or bleedings) through direct damage of the temperature center in the hypothalamus ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamus ). In venous MS it assumedly can be caused by direct pressure impulses in hypothalamic veins or liquor surges in the third ventricle. The resolution of MRV is yet too low to distiguish such causes. Because your internal jugular veins hardly have functioning valves, pressure increases of the superior vena cava (especially through strong muscle work of torso and arms) can push unhindered up against the brain. I've talked about this problem with Dr. Marian Simka in Bologna - I hope he works together with Dr. Zamboni in the complex of vein valve problems"
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