Hold your breath!
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Hold your breath!
hello Eve,
have you asked Dr Sclafani's opinion on this phenomenon ?
have you asked Dr Sclafani's opinion on this phenomenon ?
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RRMS diagnosed '92; both IJVs ballooned and stent in azygos March 31st in Katowice, Poland.
RRMS diagnosed '92; both IJVs ballooned and stent in azygos March 31st in Katowice, Poland.
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I was treated by Dr. Dake in Oct, but still thought I would check. No bubble, thank God.
The video was awesome. That definately looks like something worth checking out. I am curious to see what Dr. S thinks.
In the mean time, I would try to do that as few times as possible. My first attack was after the birth of my first child where I had to hold my breath repeatedly (valsalva). There just might be a deleterious connection.
That being said, it would be interesting for more of us to try it, just once, for posterity.
The video was awesome. That definately looks like something worth checking out. I am curious to see what Dr. S thinks.
In the mean time, I would try to do that as few times as possible. My first attack was after the birth of my first child where I had to hold my breath repeatedly (valsalva). There just might be a deleterious connection.
That being said, it would be interesting for more of us to try it, just once, for posterity.
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Now that my husband and I are done laughing hysterically, I'll share our results.
My husband, in perfect health, has absolutely no swelling around the bottom of his neck no matter how long he holds his breath and bears down (and it was a long time). I have MS (not tested for CCSVI yet), and when I do the same, the hollows at the base of my neck immediately fill and swell slightly and the veins above begin to swell out. Both sides, left more than right. Not as pronounced as yours, Eve, but definitely present.
I wonder if some of the difference could be due to our neck structure. His is thick and muscular and could hide the veins pretty well. Mine is more "elegant" and can't hide much. But there is most definitely a difference in what appears to be blood drainage (or lack of it) while holding one's breath.
My husband, in perfect health, has absolutely no swelling around the bottom of his neck no matter how long he holds his breath and bears down (and it was a long time). I have MS (not tested for CCSVI yet), and when I do the same, the hollows at the base of my neck immediately fill and swell slightly and the veins above begin to swell out. Both sides, left more than right. Not as pronounced as yours, Eve, but definitely present.
I wonder if some of the difference could be due to our neck structure. His is thick and muscular and could hide the veins pretty well. Mine is more "elegant" and can't hide much. But there is most definitely a difference in what appears to be blood drainage (or lack of it) while holding one's breath.
Well, again I'm atypical. People have reported a reddening in their face with exorcise, this doesn't happen to me. Likewise, holding my breath doesn't reveal anything. People with MS report cold, blue or red feet. Well, I used to have blueish feet but last summer they became normal in appearance again, they've warmed up too.
The narrowing of veins can occur in places other than the jugulars, right? Perhaps this explains some negative scan results, unusual locations - a standard protocol would only cover the neck and shoulders, right?
I don't know if I should be happy or disappointed! I bet I'd be one of that few percentage of MS patients with negative CCSVI results. Has anyone here been given a negative result and not conformed with this little test and the reddening of the face during excercise?
The narrowing of veins can occur in places other than the jugulars, right? Perhaps this explains some negative scan results, unusual locations - a standard protocol would only cover the neck and shoulders, right?
I don't know if I should be happy or disappointed! I bet I'd be one of that few percentage of MS patients with negative CCSVI results. Has anyone here been given a negative result and not conformed with this little test and the reddening of the face during excercise?
Hi L, I never had the redface either. My neuro has said I have atypical MS too. (mainly because I unexpectedly improved really well after years of misery)
All I can say is that not everyone with MS seems to have these swellings, but all people that do have them - in my little not very scientific research- have MS.
I would love to be scanned and see where my blockages are - I think that we might find that people who have this swelling will all have stenosis in much the same place. Or so I guess. I hope Dr S will have some time for me today.
All I can say is that not everyone with MS seems to have these swellings, but all people that do have them - in my little not very scientific research- have MS.
I would love to be scanned and see where my blockages are - I think that we might find that people who have this swelling will all have stenosis in much the same place. Or so I guess. I hope Dr S will have some time for me today.
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dx 2002,RRMS, suspected begin of MS 1978 (age 10)