Colin Rose about Kuwait

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Colin Rose about Kuwait

Postby trapatron » Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:56 am

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Postby LR1234 » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:29 am

Colin is just trying to become famous! He didn't discover CCSVI so the only way to gain publicity is to oppose it publicly. I think we should stop giving him a platform
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Postby sbr487 » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:31 am

Look at the personal attacks he makes.

If he is so authoritative, why not do research to disprove CCSVI is normal and that veins serve really no purpose and they are there just for fancy ...
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Postby GiCi » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:32 am

I do not know who Colin Rose is and, reading his comments on the decision of the Kuwait government to allow treatment of CCSVI, I think I would prefer to continue not to know him. Colin Rose most probably believes also that the Holocaust never happen and that illegal immigrants should be shot on the spot. It is really conforting to know that such an open-minded person exists.
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Postby mangio » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:36 am

Evil might be more descriptive.
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Postby eve » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:37 am

Sigh. This guy only seems to be able to make a point by being insulting. 'Scientifically backward country' happens to have one of the best medical care systems in the world.

That statement in itself makes it clear where he's coming from. As we Dutch say - loads of bleating, little wool. :lol:
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Postby sbr487 » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:37 am

GICI sir,

I am surprised you don't know Colin Rose (a.k.a glass-half-empty colin rose)
He is the wannabe nobel prize winner for proving CCSVI is a hoax ..
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Postby LR1234 » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:40 am

Gici, Colin Rose is a retired cardiologist who thinks he knows it all!
He doesn't even endorse trialling the theory of CCSVI, thats the bit that makes me have no respect for him. Yes, you may not believe in it but why would you not want to investigate the theory before writing it off?!
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Postby eric593 » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:20 am

eve wrote:Sigh. This guy only seems to be able to make a point by being insulting. 'Scientifically backward country' happens to have one of the best medical care systems in the world.



My neuro came from there. He seems to think he's pretty self-important and that he has unquestionable, unimpeachable expert knowledge (except about CCSVI, that is) :roll:
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Postby Asher » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:25 am

I'm no doctor, and I'm desperate for CCSVI to be my salvation. And yet Colin Rose writes:

"Note that the facial veins drain into the upper internal jugular veins. An obstruction in the lower internal jugular vein, substantially increasing venous pressure would affect the face as well as the brain".

At face value and to an ignorant individual like me this sounds logical? Any thoughts?
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Postby eric593 » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:30 am

Asher wrote:I'm no doctor, and I'm desperate for CCSVI to be my salvation. And yet Colin Rose writes:

"Note that the facial veins drain into the upper internal jugular veins. An obstruction in the lower internal jugular vein, substantially increasing venous pressure would affect the face as well as the brain".

At face value and to an ignorant individual like me this sounds logical? Any thoughts?


I could be wrong, but I believe that Dr. Sclafani describes this that if output of venous flow is blocked, then internal flow also slows significantly. It's one of those circuitry system where both sides must balance, so one (input) must accommodate for output disturbances to even it out. So there's no increased pressure in the brain or elsewhere. Not only that, but corollary veinous systems develop around the blockages to allow continuation of blood flow.
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Postby Asher » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:37 am

Thank you Eric, it looks like I need to start doing some serious homework :oops:
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Postby 1eye » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:53 am

This guy has been largely discredited in his own blog A lot of the posts on this topic only go back to January. I gave up after posting too many responses.

As an exercise I would like to see activity records for the topics on this site. My last comment on the topic I posted to was "And the earth is flat and the moon is made out of green cheese."

Is anyone besides me starting to see gems of irony and humour in all this?

For instance: javascript:emoticon(':?')

Bottle Feeding Related To MS Risk: Multiple Symbiosis Digest

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Bottle-Feeding and Smoking of Banana Peel Increase Risk of Multiple Symbiosis

Mudhut, Manitoba -- April 1, 2010 -- A study published in the April 1 parchment issue of the journal Milkology shows that smoking banana peel may increase the risk of multiple symbiosis (MS) in people who also have specific established risk factors for MS.

The research involved 4 people with MS and 8 people without the disease from 3 studies: the Banana-peel Study, the Bottle-fed MS Study, and the Epstein-Beatle MS Study.

Researchers first determined whether participants had known risk factors for MS, including having a high level of Auntie Bobbie in the blood to the Epstein-Beatle papyrus virus or having the East-LA gene, which is largely present in patients with MS.

The study found that among those with high levels of Auntie Bobbie to the Epstein-Beetle papyrus virus, banana-peel smokers were twice as likely to have MS as those who had never smoked the peel

The same association was not seen in those with low Auntie Bobbie levels.

The risk of MS associated with peel smoking was not different in people with and without the East LA gene.

"The consistency of an association between MS, smoking peels, and Bobbie's immune response to the Epstein-Beatle papyrus virus based on these 3 distinct, pornographically diverse studies suggests this finding is not due to pants," said study author Sting, Tantric School of Pubic Health, New York. "This relationship may provide clues as to why certain individuals develop pictures while others develop MS."

In the United States, the average lifetime risk of developing multiple symbiosis is approximately 1 in 200 for women and 1 in 600 for men. Among those with high Auntie Bobby levels to the Epstein-Beatle papyrus virus, peel-smokers may have up to a 2-fold increase in MS risk compared with non-banana-peel-smokers.

It was also found that:

If the Epstein-Beatles Battle Auntie Bobbie's Papyrus Virus in a Bottle, and the Banana-Peel is Smoking with the Tokens in a Tunnel, it's called an

Epstein-Beatle Auntie-Bobbie's Papyrus Virus Banana Bottle Token Smokin Tunnel Battle Muddle.


SOURCE: American Cabal of Numerology


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put that on your t-shirt and smoke it :?
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Postby zap » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:12 am

Asher wrote:"increasing venous pressure would affect the face".

At face value ...


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Postby 1eye » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:16 am

Maybe if it doesn't rupture altogether, the vein system absorbs extra pressure caused by heart-muscle-driven reflux, by ballooning the veins in response to more instantaneous pressure than is usually measured, wherever they are weakest, which accounts for some of the atrocious pictures taken by Dr. Haacke (see his web site). That might account for no pressure discrepancies, and pressure equilibrium in this closed system.

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