Smaller jugular vein than the other anyone ?

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Smaller jugular vein than the other anyone ?

Postby luxie100 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:23 am

I just had my MRV done in Montréal. The conclusion is that my left jugular vein is of smaller caliber than the right one. Their conclusion is that there is no significant abnormality. I wonder if the fact that one of my jugular veins is smaller can cause MS. Does anyone know ?
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Postby Cece » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:35 am

Maybe ask in Dr. Sclafani's thread? There could be a reason (such as an unfound malformation or stenosis lower down) why the one jugular is smaller. Also if an ultrasound were done you'd have a sense of the flow within the vein...if the jugular is smaller but still able to do the job, you wouldn't have reflux...at least that's the best of my understanding, which may be limited!
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Postby luxie100 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:53 am

Thank you so much, Cece, for your answer. I had the doppler done as well, but it didn't demonstrate significant stenosis nor reflux. But does the adjective SIGNIFICANT mean that there could be a problem with the reflux ? I agree with you : I should ask a specialist about it. Where can I contact the one you mentionned in your answer ? Do you have any email address ? Once again, thank you !
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Postby Lyon » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:32 pm

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Postby kiwi » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:44 pm

When my husband had his tested they found that the left had a maximum diameter of 10mm with a narrowing to 1.7mm and the right a maximum of 6mm with a narrowing to 1.4mm. does anyone know what the normal parameters are? We have gone this alone and feeling our way as we go, not really sure where to get our info from, apart from this site, and googling
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Postby akaheather » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:52 pm

When I saw Dr Dake last October, he commented that my right jugular was larger than my left. He also said that while it was common to have a dominant jugular, my right jugular was larger than normal and my left was smaller than normal. I ended up with one stent in the right and two in the left. Does this help?
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Postby Cece » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:11 pm

http://www.thisisms.com/ftopic-10680-885.html

Here is the link to Dr. Sclafani's thread. He is an accomplished IR doctor and chief of radiology at King's County in Brooklyn and another hospital, and has been taking questions and answering them here as he waits for IRB approval to continue doing liberations. For legal reasons, he might not want to comment directly on a patient case but can address the general questions: what width should a jugular be, what might it mean if a jugular is very small, etc. Hope to help & wish I had MRV results of my own already!! So much waiting.
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Postby luxie100 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:19 pm

Hi Akaheather !

Thank you for your answer regarding your veins. Now with the stents, do you feel any better ?
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Postby luxie100 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:25 pm

Thank you, Cece ! I will try to get a hold to the doctor you mentioned. I understand how you feel to have to wait for the results of the exams you had. I really wish you all the best !
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Postby ndwannabe » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:54 pm

Me, me ,me!

My right one is 20/21 mm, my left one is 9mm.

It was deemed normal by the local cardiovasculist (I know there is no such word :D), but I wonder if the right one got bigger for a reason?

I have not had a proper diagnosis for CCSVI yet though.
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Postby akaheather » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:56 pm

I am quite happy with my stents. My only "complaint" comes from shoulder pain related to the larger stent that was needed for my larger right jugular. (I have been babying that shoulder and have really gotten my neck and muscles out of whack. )
At any rate, I can't wait for my one year checkup. I have not noticed any new relapses and am hoping for no new lesion activity. At this point, I am very happy to be stable and in case anyone is wondering, I would do it again in a heartbeat!
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Postby berriesarenice » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:06 pm

I had the big right, small left thing too, and the local interventional guy said it was normal. Simka, on the other hand, found three very tight spots on the left, and a malfunctioning (long?) valve on the right.
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Postby luxie100 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:06 pm

Did you get the liberation treatment ? Where did you see Simka ? In Polland ? Was the diamater of your veins the cause of your MS ? I have lots of questions, right ? I just want to know more about my veins... and I want to get better !
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Postby muse » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:20 pm

Dr. Schelling told me some time ago that it is absolutely NORMAL to have a smaller left internal jugular vein. Best Arne http://www.csvi-ms.net/en
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Postby oreo » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:43 am

The human body is filled with pairs. Eyes, ears, nostrils, lungs, arms. legs, breasts, kidneys, ovaries, testicles. In no instance is the right one the same as the left one. There are always differences in size, shape, placement - the works.

The same is going to be true for the cardiovascular system. Left / right differences are nothing to get bent out of shape over. There is already enough hysteria around the whole CCSVI idea. We don't need to add any more fuel to the fire.
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