This Is MS Multiple Sclerosis Community: Knowledge & Support

all right folks. please let's all start considering whether disrespectful retaliation (to perceived or real disrespect) is actually allowed on this site. the answer is no.

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Jimmylegs,
Thanks for your calmimg words.
Kind regards,
MarkW

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Mark Walker - Oxfordshire, England. Registered Pharmacist (UK). 10 years of study around MS.
Mark's CCSVI Report 7-Mar-11:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/8359854/MS-experts-in-Britain-have-to-open-their-minds.html

Happy Anniversary To Me!!!!!
Today is my 7 month Liberation Anniversary!!!!!
Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
Still improving daily. Ran (yes) up 3 flight of stairs to my old office the other day. Just stopped by to say Hey to the old gang. Heck, I used to take the elevator when I was working there.

I would like to use my positive experience to promote faith and healing to those who really wonder if this can work. Yes, it can. It did for me.
Faith that this will soon be happening for everyone to access.
Healing when the blood starts to flow!!!
MS FREE!!
Sincerely, Rose

How much placebo did they give you Rose that it's lasted 7 months?

I don't even have MS and I'd like some of that ...

Well, one wouldn't need to spend too much time there, a staggering 263 posts.

mshusband,
Yep! Just call me Placebo but don't call me late for dinner!
Rose

Ha! Great to hear of your continued improvements, Rose 2!

I think we need a new word for what Rose2 and others have experienced.

PlaZebo effect: Unexplainable positive effects from an obviously sham procedure backed by defective theories and no research by doctors with funny last names.

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Now that's a sensible post Lyon. And maybe a point I'd ask you to clarify.

But ... of all the things in the past (again I don't know about them all - new to MS) ... how many were actual medical problems?

Do you agree that blood flow draining from the brain and spine are likely an important medical problem? Regardless of MS or not.

If my blood wasn't draining from my head ... I know I'd be concerned ...

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by things I take it you mean medicinations. Those aren't vascular interventions. They merit a rigorous testing, double blinded testing etc.

ccvi is different. Applying logic from medications testing is stupid. This a surgical change you can see. Nothing needs to be measured. Just change in patient outcome.[/quote]

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rose2, so glad to hear the positive and you are doing so well. i like hearing that kind of news.

Beyond the placebo effect fact lets remember that RRMS means that symptoms wax and wane. When I had my first attack I could not walk a straight line for about four months but over time I returned almost back to normal. If I would have had the liberation procedure performed on me in the first four months I could have easily contributed it to the procedure itself instead of the natural course of my MS. Any short term results of ANY study should be looked at critically when it comes to MS due to the nature of MS itself.

hell with the control crap that is pharma talk for ' we can twist the #'s an delay treatment to insure that the appliance mfg's still make their money. I don't need no control to know that the strength comes back in my legs and I do not piss my pants after taking LDN, OPC factor or any other thing that straightens this thing out. cause like I heard somebody say, what they say about the mylen thing can not be right cause people that are getting big results are not regenerating nerves in a couple days. Lyon what are you still doing here spreading BS. get the heck outta here a shut your lies and pharma propaganda. the rest of the world is more free that the USA it is obvious to anyone paying attention so like I SAID f u