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Quick question for those of us waiting to be liberated

Postby BooBear » Mon May 24, 2010 4:34 am

I was thinking about the blood thinners.

As I have read on this board, blood thinners are used for the surgery and then it's baby aspirin for the rest of your life. We already know that baby aspirin is used as therapy for heart patients as well.

For those of us waiting to be liberated, does it make sense to take two baby aspirin a day now? If it will help with the blood flow, albeit moderately to minimally, how could it hurt? Right? Or could it?

Just eager to do SOMETHING until it is my turn.
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Postby esta » Mon May 24, 2010 7:10 am

hi boobear
well, that's a stumble...if your blood is too thin, you could have problems where they cut in the groin...but, a baby asprin is miniscule really. i had an angioplasty in katawice 3 weeks ago, and only took 7 days of the thinner, but am taking a b asprin now, as a kind of self diagnosing thing, for fear of restenosing...thought it might help, but who knows...
i belierve if you get a stent, its a b asprin forever, and the thinner for 20 days.
i can understand wanting to do something, its a forever wait...
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Postby FlashHack » Mon May 24, 2010 8:51 am

From the "Dr. Sclafani answers some questions" thread:
drsclafani wrote:
SofiaK wrote:Why would blood thinners be needed because of treatment?
Did Dr. Zamboni ever use them? I don't recall this.


ballooning the vein causes trauma to it. it opens the lining and exposes the muscle layer to the blood. this can lead to clotting. therefore the blood thinners are needed until the lining heals. Dr. Zamboni used blood thinners for a few weeks , i think two or three. I am using them for three weeks. others use aspirin which prevents the platelets from ssticking to the wall as the initial line of bodily defense fro the injury we cause by venoplasty
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Postby FlashHack » Mon May 24, 2010 9:12 am

I would also add that every drug comes with a side-effect price tag, even baby aspirin. A quick web search yields the following:
Side effects and complications of taking aspirin include:

* Hemorrhagic stroke. While daily aspirin can help prevent a clot-related stroke, it may increase your risk of a bleeding stroke (hemorrhagic stroke).
* Gastrointestinal bleeding. Daily aspirin use increases your risk of developing a stomach ulcer. And, if you have a bleeding ulcer, taking aspirin will cause it to bleed more, perhaps to a life-threatening extent.
* Allergic reaction. If you're allergic to aspirin, taking any amount of aspirin can trigger a serious allergic reaction.
* Ringing in the ears (tinnitus) and hearing loss. Too much aspirin (overdosing) can cause tinnitus and eventual hearing loss in some people.

If you're taking aspirin and need a surgical procedure or dental work, be sure to tell the surgeon or dentist that you take daily aspirin and how much. Otherwise you risk excessive bleeding during surgery.

The Food and Drug Administration also warns that people who regularly take aspirin should limit the amount of alcohol they drink because of its additional blood-thinning effects and potential to upset your stomach. If you take daily aspirin therapy, you should not have more than one drink a day if you're a woman or two drinks a day if you're a man.
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Postby esta » Mon May 24, 2010 9:21 am

flashback
thank gawd there's people like you who manage all the details!
thank you
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Postby esta » Mon May 24, 2010 9:24 am

oops its FlashHack
sorry! thats my lack of attention to details...
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Postby FlashHack » Mon May 24, 2010 9:25 am

I can't take any credit. My wife is getting her doctorate in Nursing Practice and keeps me straight when it comes to all things pharmacological and medical! :wink:
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Postby BooBear » Mon May 24, 2010 10:34 am

I just appreciate the feedback! Thanks, guys.
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Postby skincoll » Mon May 24, 2010 12:18 pm

Does anyone know what the blood thinner is they give you? Warfarin?
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Postby skincoll » Mon May 24, 2010 12:22 pm

In fact, what are all the medications they give you? Can anyone tell me? Thanks.
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Postby Cece » Mon May 24, 2010 12:23 pm

Coumadin or Plavix are two blood thinners that have been prescribed (not in combination!)
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Postby skincoll » Mon May 24, 2010 12:27 pm

Thanks Cece.
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Postby esta » Mon May 24, 2010 1:31 pm

having just had the procedure in katowice i got the blood thinner Fraxiparine
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Postby hwebb » Mon May 24, 2010 2:00 pm

you could try altering your diet so your blood to naturally thin your blood. A low saurated fat, high omega 3 diet will do this. If you don't like omega-3 rich foods (like oily fish and flax), you could always use supplements....but then you're back to popping pills.
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Postby skincoll » Mon May 24, 2010 2:24 pm

esta wrote:having just had the procedure in katowice i got the blood thinner Fraxiparine


How are you now Esta, after having the procedure? I'm going on 7th June.
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