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concerned wrote:So there is at least one death that was at least related to the angioplasty. How many people have gotten the procedure? Out of the reports that i've read this must be at least 1-2%? And alot of those reports were for stenting so maybe closer to 3-4%?
What is the explaination for his death (Rici) that doesn't involve the procedure?
mshusband wrote:I'm not saying there's no risk ... but I just want to get the message out there that so far the percent of death due to angioplasty in regards to CCSVI is currently 0% ... do it on a million people and yeah, likely someone will tragically die ... but so far it's 0%.
Everyone sees this MISINFORMATION - and I don't want it to spread. We all know about 3 accidents so far in regards to CCSVI treatment ... the death, the heart surgery and Rici ... but each can be explained and is not related to angioplasty.
You have to kill this MISINFORMATION first ... then once people know the facts they can learn more.
AMcG wrote:Guru did pose a specific question which was looking for information I think and not opinion. I think he deserves an answer. I am not a doctor so I cannot comment on the prevalence of adverse events in arterial angioplasty but I would not place much reliance on them anyway. I did discuss this with my GP and my wife who works in hospital before I went to Poland. I would suggest you do the same.
There is data we can look at for venoplasty in the jugulars. It is those people we have heard about on TIMS who have been to Poland or Bulgaria or have had venoplasty somewhere else for CCSVI. At a rough count Simka has done about 500, Kostecki 20, Grozdinski 50, Sclafani 40. Say 600 all together as a rough guess. Going by reports from Simka most people get one stent and at least one side ballooned. So between 300 and 600 have had angioplasty. No deaths have yet been reported so no actual percentage can be calculated. If there had been one death it would be between 0.3% and 0.15%.
It also interests me that so few people have reported re-stenoses. Zamboni’s rate for re-stenosis was roughly 50% after 18 months. So we should get 150 – 300 people getting the problem. It is roughly six months since people started going. So I think we should have had more than a handful by now. It will be very interesting to see how many more show up.
Good luck with your decision Guru.
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