Thyroid cysts contribute to CCSVI?

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Thyroid cysts contribute to CCSVI?

Postby SaintLouis » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:54 am

I wonder if anyone has come across any information that would connect thryoid cysts to brain-vein drainage problems that might worsen or contribute to CCSVI?
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Postby Villagemaid » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:50 am

I would also like to know this.....

The technician found two nodules on either side of the lower lobes of my thyroid when he was doing the Ultra-sound Doppler at False Creek.

I went to my Doctor, and for the last six weeks I have waiting for a call from the Hospital for a Biopsy. Can't believe it has taken that long since my dad had Thyroid Cancer....and my nodules are of a "moderate" size.
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Re: Thyroid cysts contribute to CCSVI?

Postby Johnson » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:58 am

SaintLouis wrote:I wonder if anyone has come across any information that would connect thryoid cysts to brain-vein drainage problems that might worsen or contribute to CCSVI?

My own feeling on this question is that CCSVI contributes to thyroid issues, and not the other way around. The thyroid veins drain into the IJVs, and if there is impaired outlet there... I have/had a significant number of collateral veins from my thyroid, and weight loss issues that were concomitant with increasing "MS" progression. After my procedure my appetite increased significantly, and I feel that I gained some weight over the following 10 days. I would be interested to see if those collateral veins are "gone" now.
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Postby Villagemaid » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:00 am

Uh oh.......I better not gain any more wieght after being liberated....lol....I think I have UNDERactive thyroid......
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Postby cheerleader » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:18 am

Here's Dr. Zamboni's paper on the collateral patterns that can develop because of impaired IJV drainage...Johnson is right, since the thyroid veins drain into the IJVs, a disturbance in venous circulation can throw off the thyroid (hyper or hypo) We've discussed this issue on here several times. Search thyroid in the CCSVI forums, and enjoy--

Venous Collateral Circulation

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Postby Villagemaid » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:35 am

WOW Cheerleader.....thanks so much for posting that!!!!!

It just SO makes sense...even when I read my MRV report......
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Postby Johnnymac » Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:30 am

This is interesting. Just had my wife's neuro checkup on Thursday and she noticed symptoms in her reflexes that indicated a potential thyroid problem and ordered bloodwork. My mother-in-law had to have thyroid surgury when she was younger to correct a problem.
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Postby jr5646 » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:09 am

Things just keep adding up... When I was recently scanned (doppler ultrasound) the report noted a nodule on the thyroid (enlarged). The tech commented on it but quickly dismissed and said it was nothing to worry about. I looked it up and I guess it is very common / benign. However, now when viewed with along with ccsvi it makes much more sense.

Wondering if the thyroid will return to "normal" after ccsvi treatment?


@Johnnymac - what reflex symptoms could possibly correlate to the thyroid? never heard of this - maybe I have the same issues since my thyroid is enlarged?

This "is" interesting...
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Postby Johnnymac » Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:32 am

it was a test with the expected results of her foot reflexing down, but then bouncing back rapidly. My wife's left foot would kinda just stick in the down position and slowly return up to normal. All the doc said was that it could be an indicator of thyroid problems and wanted to do bloodwork.
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Postby Vhoenecke » Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:42 am

Wow, I had thyroid trouble with my first pregnancy.
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Postby 1eye » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:58 pm

cross-posted:

I wonder if there is any connection between the location of the thyroid gland and the action of Campath, in light of CCSVI. The most common side effect seems to be autoimmune thyroid problems. Otherwise it seems pretty successful in 'RRMS'.
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Re: thyroid screening

Postby silverbirch » Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:06 pm

1eye wrote:cross-posted:

I wonder if there is any connection between the location of the thyroid gland and the action of Campath, in light of CCSVI. The most common side effect seems to be autoimmune thyroid problems. Otherwise it seems pretty successful in 'RRMS'.


As per Cheerleaders quote- and previous reading on Thyroid Threads and Dr Z's report I asked my Dr to screen my thyroid vein based on low/high thyroid bloods this has been granted and hope to have a date soon.

Based on certain DMD's screening of thyroid is a must. And as I am still considering certain DMD ( the DMD that are related to Thyroid screening)I was granted screening on this basis..............:) lets hope its CCSVI style !!!!!


Although Im due for CCSVI screening
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Postby ms2009 » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:43 pm

cheerleader wrote:Here's Dr. Zamboni's paper on the collateral patterns that can develop because of impaired IJV drainage...Johnson is right, since the thyroid veins drain into the IJVs, a disturbance in venous circulation can throw off the thyroid (hyper or hypo) We've discussed this issue on here several times. Search thyroid in the CCSVI forums, and enjoy--

Venous Collateral Circulation

Johnson...so happy to hear you're eating well and gaining health and strength.
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Thanks for the link and the paper. What about the genital kyst? Any correlation?
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Postby jr5646 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:52 am

Thanks for the reply (interesting):
Johnnymac wrote:it was a test with the expected results of her foot reflexing down, but then bouncing back rapidly. My wife's left foot would kinda just stick in the down position and slowly return up to normal. All the doc said was that it could be an indicator of thyroid problems and wanted to do bloodwork.


My Dr. never really discussed any of this with me... Maybe it's because he teaches a class (The Neurological Exam) and he usually has the interns doing the exams... whatever. I don't mind helping out, but sometimes feel as though things are being overlooked..

I'm going to ask for a thyroid test - I have the swelling ankles going on (Myxedema). just curious now...

Below is some more info. -

Myxedema / “non-pitting" edema or swelling of the ankles that “bounces" right back when you push on it similar to the way a balloon would bounce back if you pushed on it.

Decreased deep tendon reflexes (such as when your doctor bangs on your knees with a reflex hammer). A “delayed return phase" of the ankle jerk reflex is a pretty sensitive indicator of low thyroid.

Babinski's reflex or extensor plantar reflex is a test for dysfunction corticospinal tract. The test consists of stroking the outside sole from heel to toe with a pointed object. The normal response is a bunching downward (flexor) movement of all the toes. In infants under 2 years of age and people with dysfunction in the corticospinal tract, this causes an upward (extensor) movement of the big toe. Babinski's reflex can occur unilaterally (in just one foot) or bilaterally (in both feet). A positive Babinski's reflex is consistent with several neurological conditions, including multiple sclerosis.

The corticospinal tract is a huge tract of nerve cells in the brain that carry movement (motor) signals down to the spinal cord. Damage to the corticospinal tract can result in muscle weakness, spasticity and excessively brisk reflexes.

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Postby monik_77 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:20 am

Hi friends,

Yes I also have a cyst in my thyroid that was found during my eco-doppler color!!!!!!!!! Also I have reflux in 3 of my yugular veins.

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