Surgeries in Italy??????

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Surgeries in Italy??????

Postby lovebug » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:36 pm

Has anybody heard about the Liberation treatment being done in Italy now? Apparently there is a long waiting list. How could we find out who to get in contact with at the hospitals or doctors in Italy who might be doing the surgeries now?
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Postby joge » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:56 pm

Nice country, Italy, but probably a long waitinglist.

Other options in Europe are (translated from dutch with google):


Research and treatments by Dr. Roel Beelen
Department of cardiovascular and thoracic surgery
OLV Hospital
Moorselbaan 164
9300 Aalst
Tel: (0032) (0) 53/724599


Research / treatment by Dr. Vogl in Frankfurt, Germany: T. Vogl @ Last known price: Doppler is € 300, - MRV and € 900, -. Here is a story of a patient who experienced the investigation carried out by Dr Vogl:

Thomas J. Vogl
Prof. Dr. med. Institut und Intervention Diagnostic Radiology Elle
Theodor-Stern-Kai 7
D-60596 Frankfurt am Main
60594 Frankfurt
Fax (private): +49 (0) 69 6301 7258
Work: +49 (0) 69 6301 7277

Frankfurt also provides research through Dr. Doppler. Meyn. His contact details are:
Klinik Universität Frankfurt
Abt. Gefäßchirurgie
Dr. Meyn
Theodor Stern Kai 7
60590 Frankfurt
Tel: +49 (0) 069-6301 1

It is recommended both a Doppler and an MRI to do in Frankfurt, for a fuller picture. Frankfurt offers to our knowledge this also as a package. Rates are unknown to us. Information can be obtained from Dr. Vogl and / or Dr.. Meyn.

Also in Frankfurt:
NDEX 0,19,0,0,0,197 ...

Prescan does CCSVI Research in Dusseldorf.
Total Research (MRV & Echo Doppler), including guidance and translation costs, costs € 1.269, -
From late June Prescan will also offer treatments
Consideration: € 5.995, -
Restenosis treatment within one year's free
Read for more information.

Private Scan.
Private Scan works with XCell-Center. Scan is a private Dutch company and XCell-Center is a German company.
Diagnosis + treatment is possible. Only one diagnosis for treatment is needed (on CD-ROM and on paper).
Appointments can be made through the website: or by calling 074-255 1926 80.
Diagnosis: € 1.225, -
Consideration: € 5.995, -
Treatment twice: € 2.750, - extra
Restenosis treatment in control after 90 days free!
More information is available at

Research (MRI + Doppler) + treatment in Katowice, Poland: The Doppler is performed by doctor Simka, including the operation by Dr. Ludyga. Send a mail for the latest waiting times (these are now more than one year) and prices. Accounting at least in € 6.400, - (+ € 500, -/stent) Includes 5 days accommodation. Restenosis € 2.500, -

Euro Poland Ltd. Medic.
Head Office
ul. Fliegera 5 / 1
40-065 Katowice

Patients' Coordinanors Office
Qubus Hotel, room 1910
ul. Uniwersytecka 13
40-007 Katowice
Tel: +48 32 6010910
Fax: +48 32 6010960

A new opportunity for research / treatment Amed:

Amed Center Sp. z oo
Al. Ujazdowskie 41
00-540 Warszawa, Poland
Mobile: +48 695 025 431
tel: +48 (22) 319 5681
fax: +48 (22) 319 5680
email: @ m.duszynski

Alternative e-mail address: @ m.duszynski

This clinic in Warsaw, Poland started operating in the spring. Waiting times are shorter. This clinic is not an initiative of Dr Simka / Ludyga and nobody can (so far) say something about the reliability / competence of the clinic.

Research / treatment in Scotland has recently become possible: ... ation.html

And in Bulgaria: Tokuda Hospital Sofia
51 Nikola B. Vaptsarov Blvd.
1407 Sofia, Bulgaria

Corporate Development and Communications
Joseph P. Dabbs BS MBA
GSM: +359 884 933 209
E-mail: and

National Cardiology Hospital, Clinic or vascular surgery and angiology Assoc. Prof. Lachezar Grozdinski, MD, PhD, a specialist in angiology, Sofia, Bulgaria, phone 00359 2 997 89 18, mobile 00 359 888 758 058.
E-mail -
Prof. Grozdinski carry out the investigations. Dr. Ivo Petrov (an experienced) and cardiologist performs the "Liberation treatment" from. E-mail:

Geya Tours is a travel agent (in the hall of the hospital located) and arrange accommodation at the guesthouse, hospital and / or transfers to airport: tel: 35924034230

€ 5.750, - for research, diagnosis and treatment (Dilation balloon, stents: an additional charge).
Accommodation (1, 2 or 3 person room supervisor (s) or extra days in hospital board for patient): € 20 per person per day, full board: € 15 extra per person per day
Transfers airport-hospital hostess: € 50, - incl wheelchair (vv € 100, -).


The hospital in Bologna has stopped operating because of: no permission from 'the top'. CCSVI research and operations are only performed for people whose medication has no effect. These "elect" may be forwarded by their treating neurologist.
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Postby joge » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:39 am

Today, I read on a Dutch forum, a message from a Begium citizen living in Italy, close to dr. Zamboni.

He was frustrated; on a waitinglist for more than a year; not even a small message.

He went to Poland for surgery and is now going to Begium for controls.

So, Italy may be a difficult option...

I'm ready, I'm ready !
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Bulgaria email

Postby LivabirdsHubbie » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:25 am

Just to let you know that Prof. Grozdinski email is actually

We too used the old one and were waiting for a while.
When i resent to this address he responded right away

All the best

P.S my wife went to Poland in april, but we are now going to Bulgaria as we believe the azygos is not really treated in Poland
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Postby joge » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:04 am

Thanks for your information. I changed it in my post. :)
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