This Is MS Multiple Sclerosis Community: Knowledge & Support

excuse me folks.

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Something is VERY strange indeed.

i ran across this topic by chance and would like to remind you:

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You're all most/almost welcome, I am nearly 90.9999999 percent, with first or second class evidence, and placebo remote-controlled, random, third-eye blinded trials, completely and unprovably certain.

No worries, Scrop. Plenty more if you need it.

High road, anyone? It's really a good view up here.

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I thought I would post these snippets from Biogen's own 10-K, filed in April of this year. Anyone who reads these and then believes that biopharmaceutical companies focused on this particular patient community are not nervous about CCSVI is delusional, IMO.



So, to recap, ANY negative developments that will affect the sales of these drugs will substantially hurt the company. Is a surgical solution a negative development? You be the judge.

Because here is what Biogen thinks:

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Lyon, it isn't about a conspiracy theory. It's about business.

It's simple- in the case of Biogen, the sales of Avonex and Tysabri are integral to their sustainability over the next several years. That's not my opinion- that's the opinion of Biogen.

As such, if there is a development that will negatively impact the sales of these drugs- such as an oral treatment, a safer treatment, or a more effective treatment, they will suffer. Again, not my assessment- theirs.

At the end of the day, it's simple- if a treatment, like the Liberation Treatment for CCSVI, is found to be safer, less expensive and with a higher efficacy rate than Avonex and Tysabri, then Biogen (with their $1B indebtedness- read the 10-K) will suffer.

Of course they would be worried. As business people, they would look to shore up their distribution channels- the neuros that prescribe the drugs. To do otherwise would be poor judgement and bad business.

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BooBear,

Excellent post!

Thanks for digging up Biogen's information.

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Excellent post.

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http://bostonreview.net/BR35.3/angell.php

just a bit of food for thought.

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Where did that post you deleted from the site support go Lyon?

Why didn't you want anyone to read your criticism of the moderators on this board for being too "pro-ccsvi"?

Everyone, Lyon has a journal entry from January that Kacey posted about Dr. Mehta.

If Lyon is so uninterested in CCSVI as he claims to be ... why is he keeping notes on where people post doctors names and things like that?

Great posts BooBear ... your right, just like my company isn't worried about our competitors stealing market-share ... I'm sure Biogen is completely resigned to letting something take money from their investors.

It makes absolute business sense.

To put it another way, if you own a landscaping business but are paying regular Americans $15 per hour to cut grass, and as a result have to charge $25 per lawn to make a profit ...

yet you have a competitor who pays illegal immigrants $8 per hour to cut grass, and can charge $15 per lawn cut ... are you going to sit there and let them take your business away from you?

Nope, you're probably going to find a way to respond.

Don't think Biogen and these other companies aren't doing the same thing.

Let the bash CCSVIhusband fest commence for the day.

weren't we warned about this kind of stuff? give it a rest.

that journal post detailing Kacey's post about Dr. Mehta is gone now too from his profile ...

I wonder what deleting all these things I bring up is about? Why doesn't he want you guys to read them?

Hmmm ... I don't think this 'group' has figured out how to deal with me yet ... not the new me at least.



But hey, let them all sit back and wait to be liberated until the studies come out ... more room at the front of the line for the rest of us.

carry on minions ... carry on.

By the way, as of today you can all call me Dr. --- unfortunately it's the PhD kind or believe me I'd be an interventional radiologist and treat every single one of you ...

ENOUGH.

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my approach: no meds so far - just balanced whole foods (partial 'paleo', much less outright elimination), science, supplements, & bloodwork
my regimen - www.thisisms.com/ftopict-2489.html
www.whfoods.com, www.nutritiondata.com

if the tone of these posts continue with repetitive pettiness in contravention of Arron's stated rules of the board, posted above for the benefit of readers on this thread, then pending moderator conference, this topic may be locked and/or edited and/or deleted.

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my approach: no meds so far - just balanced whole foods (partial 'paleo', much less outright elimination), science, supplements, & bloodwork
my regimen - www.thisisms.com/ftopict-2489.html
www.whfoods.com, www.nutritiondata.com