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Teva Falls Most in 21 Months...

Postby BBE » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:43 am

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-0 ... roval.html

This news may not have much to do with CCSVI, which effects I`m still awaiting to come but I noticed the last sentence.
“Teva is prepared for a decrease in the Copaxone sales and already included that in its guidance,” she said.

I would like to know if they included CCSVI as a possible reason.
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Postby BooBear » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:53 am

It is interesting- especially as their annual report (Feb. 2010) was nothing byt optimistic about the continuation of Copaxone sales, particularly against the competition.

Hmmmm.....
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Postby Cece » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:44 am

The article talks about a possible copaxone generic being approved. There there is also the possibility of oral pills stealing some of the market share. But CCSVI could be in there as a secret factor as well. Interesting!
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Future of MS Drugs

Postby MarkW » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:07 pm

For the record:
Drugs for immune system modification in MS will change from regular injections (daily to weekly) to oral drugs or irregular infusions (monthly to annually) over the next few years. CCSVI will not decrease the total market size for MS drugs as companies will position their products in combination with CCSVI therapy.
This highly valuable market analysis for free, if anyone is listening.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/8359854/MS-experts-in-Britain-have-to-open-their-minds.html
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Postby ozarkcanoer » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:03 pm

For whatever it is worth... after 2 1/2 years of daily Copaxone injections, I just stopped cold turkey about 3 weeks ago. I just can't do it anymore. I tell myself the oral drugs are just around the corner and I will be able to start one of them soon. So I am no longer contributing to Teva's bottom line.

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Postby selkie » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:40 pm

Teva is being sued as well by the company that originally developed the molecule alleging that Copaxone is effective ONLY if taken once a week, or even once a month, that TEVA is pushing once a day only to boost their profits - if anyone's interested I can post the original link - tho I got slammed at another forum for doing that, so I'm hesitant to do so again.

But I've quit Copaxone cold turkey now, am going to start LDN & hopefully get liberated one day.
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Postby Hopeful10 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:52 pm

selkie wrote:Teva is being sued as well by the company that originally developed the molecule alleging that Copaxone is effective ONLY if taken once a week, or even once a month, that TEVA is pushing once a day only to boost their profits - if anyone's interested I can post the original link - tho I got slammed at another forum for doing that, so I'm hesitant to do so again.


Selkie,

Please post the link -- I'm on Copaxone and considering reducing the frequency of my injections, so the lawsuit sounds intriguing....

Thanks!
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Postby jay123 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:11 pm

yes but post it in the right forum, not the ccsvi one!
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Postby selkie » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:45 pm

Yeah I wondered why it was in this forum. Can the thread be moved then I'll post the link. But you can also google it -
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Postby BBE » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:24 am

The problem with other threads is that not so many people are reading it. So I think it will be lost there.
CCSVI thread has/can become a place where thousands people come every day and one can get great advice in any area of MS. It`s almost like a MS Forum itself with many people and their experience. But it`s moderated to stay for CCSVI only. So it has both pros and cons...

As for MS Drugs, there are also many cases where people get their drugs paid from public health (like us) and are prescribed the drug even if they don`t take/want them. So the companies get their money anyway.
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Postby tazbo » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:15 pm

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 20752.html
This article says sales are good. I don't think CCSVI will matter much to drug companies for a long time. Hopefully we get pharma interest in myelin repair...I would be happy to look at paying for fixed nerves. ;-)
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Re: Future of MS Drugs

Postby ljh » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:05 pm

MarkW wrote:For the record:
Drugs for immune system modification in MS will change from regular injections (daily to weekly) to oral drugs or irregular infusions (monthly to annually) over the next few years. CCSVI will not decrease the total market size for MS drugs as companies will position their products in combination with CCSVI therapy.
This highly valuable market analysis for free, if anyone is listening.
Kind regards,
MarkW

:D i'm listening! thanks mark!
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Postby ljh » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:08 pm

selkie wrote:Teva is being sued as well by the company that originally developed the molecule alleging that Copaxone is effective ONLY if taken once a week, or even once a month, that TEVA is pushing once a day only to boost their profits - if anyone's interested I can post the original link - tho I got slammed at another forum for doing that, so I'm hesitant to do so again.

But I've quit Copaxone cold turkey now, am going to start LDN & hopefully get liberated one day.

:o i'm passing this onto my buddies taking copaxone! pls post link
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