Inclined Bed Therapy Featured in New Pathways Magazine MSRC

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Postby pklittle » Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:31 pm

Could someone scan the article and post it please? thx
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Audio: Inclined Bed Therapy Article in New Pathways Magazine

Postby AndrewKFletcher » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:31 am

Voice Audio of Inclined Bed Therapy Article in "July/August 2010" issue of New Pathways Magazine

Andrew K Fletcher Voice Audio of Inclined Bed Therapy Article in "July/August 2010" issue of New Pathways Magazine

http://www.msrc.co.uk/downloads/I62_bed.mp3
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Postby CuriousRobot » Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:59 am

Andrew, I'm having trouble viewing the document. I know in Google Docs that you can shift sharing settings from private to public (but cannot edit or change). I think this may be the case because the "document cannot be found" when I click the link.
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Postby AndrewKFletcher » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:02 pm

Thanks for pointing this out, should be fine now

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Postby thisisalex » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:01 pm

Andrew
it does't work for me... :( could you please find a way to share it? it would be very interesting!
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Hopefully sorted, changed permissions :)

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Postby CuriousRobot » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:36 am

It works now! :P
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Postby thisisalex » Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:01 pm

thank you very much Andrew! :)
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When are we going to see an Inclined Bed Therapy trial?

Postby AndrewKFletcher » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:18 am

Many people are testing Inclined bed Therapy and many are experiencing significant improvements without or with surgery.

Mainstream doctors and surgeons are now recommending IBT to people with ms, spinal cord injury and Parkinson's disease, thanks to TIMS and New Pathways magazine from the MSRC.

This is rather odd and contradictory, but very much welcomed.

IBT requires a controlled test in a home based trial monitored by PHD students and a University or hospital. "evidence based" is a label applied to modern medicine as liberally as icing on a Christmas cake.

Is there any way people on TIMS can combine in a targeted request for a full controlled or double cross over trial for IBT?

I have invested a massive amount of time and effort bringing this simple logical therapy to people who need help today rather than in ten years time. It is about time that this challenge to prove or disprove IBT is brought into the current mainstream literature.

We need a concentrated highly focused incision through the curtain of bureaucracy that has successfully repelled all requests for an IBT trial, so that everyone can learn what conditions IBT can and can't help with.

"When", (not if) a trial is established and results have been analysed, "good science always prevails over bad science" We can begin to examine how circulation is influenced by gravity and this must happen now that so many professionals have embraced the logic and observed its results with their patients.

People on TIMS, thanks to Professor Zamboni, Dr Schellings et al, now have the connections and access to surgeons, consultants and doctors involved in pioneering procedures which have yet to be thoroughly tested.

Are we beginning to see a change in the way medicine moves forward?


I humbly ask for your help to achieve nothing more than to establish the truth about circulation and IBT in a way that is acceptable on both sides of the doctors desk.

I cannot do this alone

Sincerely yours

Andrew K Fletcher

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PS Have been very busy working on my irrigation project with the Fredome visionary trust, who presented Operation OASIS at The All Party Parliamentary Climate Change Group in the Houses of Parliament 18th November, where, along with Greg Peachy and many eminent scientists, I was a main speaker. The presentation warmed the minds and hearts of everyone and has opened up many avenues that will ultimately lead to waste water and sewage being treated anaerobically on board super tankers, returning in ballast back to desert coastlines, to discharge the nutrient rich, treated water onto the arid coastlines to reforest and alter the climate, causing rains to fall on lands where water scarcity, thirst and starvation are everyone's concern. The presentation lasted 2 hours and won applause from over a hundred people. A truly great day.



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Postby blossom » Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:02 pm

andrew, i had my bed elevated for a good while and i did not get any better movement but my feet would get toasty quickly and my breathing and sleep was better. then got liberated which had no good results and was reading conflicting things about ibt after treatment. so i put it flat. what are your thoughts about ibt after ccsvi treatment? i plan on having it raised up again as soon as someone can do it.

i am not much good at organizing but what type of help are you needing?is it financial or an on line survey type thing. i was hoping to see a response from some of the others. maybe if you can post or pm some can help. i know some say ibt has nothing to do with ccsvi but it certainly effects the blood flow and if it helps a little or helps a lot or nothing for some it is batting as good an average as a lot of mainstream. and the price is right.

thanks for shareing your knowledge. i hope we can help.
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Inclined bed therapy after CCSVI procedure

Postby AndrewKFletcher » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:38 am

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I find it fascinating that when surgery fails people somehow attribute it's failings to IBT. There are after all two models for sleeping for the majority of people, one is a flat, where most people experience problems and the other is tilted where most people experience some improvements. IBT is a long slow process which has been shown to improve many conditions. A flat bed however has been shown in the literature many times to do quite the opposite. How many times have we read, I woke up and couldn't move, I got out of bed and collapsed on the floor, my condition improves during the day but worsens at night? All of which refer to the flat bed which we have adopted out of habit rather than from science, possibly because a bed with even height legs looks tidier than a bed which is tilted. Old habits die hard!

Your experience with toasty feet using IBT is indicative of improvements in circulation and was the very first improvement, my wife and I, and indeed a number of friends experienced. The next obvious improvement reported was in varicose veins, these results were remarkable and showed that a flat bed must have been a main contributory factor in the onset of VV.

Respiration responds well to ibt, and the medical profession acknowledge this by recommending a tilted bed for people with severe respiratory problems. Presumably for good reason. Then we have the premature baby units who tilt the mattresses of high risk infants. The reasoning being it helps to prevent gerd where acid from the gut enters the upper gullet and in some cases infiltrates the lungs due to choking on up-welling stomach acid.

In fact our granddaughter Amy has, like several others, slept on an inclined bed from birth and her progress as were all others, is obvious to everyone who meets her.
Logically, cot deaths or sids as it is now called with a tilted mattress would be virtually non-existent. Surely this requires testing on a larger scale? I have asked repeatedly for a study into sids but sadly to no avail and not for any other reason than the theory being tested arrived from the other side of the medical wall.

Many doctors, surgeons and consultants are engaging IBT, and recommending IBT, yet are failing to report back their findings. The same cannot be said for CCSVI. Why is this?

When you put your bed flat after surgery did your feet and hands remain nice and warm in bed?

The help we all need is for IBT to be examined in a controlled environment to test parameters that have been shown already in a way that is acceptable to mainstream medicine. I cannot achieve this alone, so we need a concentrated well aimed campaign to enlist the help of those professionals already recommending IBT.

This could easily be achieved in medical school by engaging several phd students in research into IBT.

To do this we need to prize open a few doors and the ccsvi route appears to have opened many doors, providing access to the experts we need in order to proceed towards a trial. If we could get one of these consultants surgeons and doctors to begin by asking some of their phd students to conduct a home study based trial, where patients simply modify their bed and monitor their progress using a loaned monitor to collect data on heart rate, respiration rate, temperature, circulation, combined with input from the participants we have a model for testing IBT.

Another route is to pay a university or hospital to conduct a study, this route will require funding and as most funding is from drug companies or the governments investing money in drug companies, it is difficult to imagine gaining funding for a therapy that has the potential to remove dependency on drugs.

The years of ignorance keep rolling by but slowly we are seeing a change as more and more people experiment with IBT and more and more consultants see the evidence for themselves, sooner or later a body of people will demand a full investigation into IBT.

I have read some of the arguments against IBT following CCSVI procedure. It would be very simple to prove whether IBT is disadvantageous by following the progress of people who have had CCSVI and continued with IBT against those who have had only the surgery. A careful analysis of the reports in the CCSVI online tracking journal thread might reveal all we need to know. Maybe a PHD student could analyse the data from those reports?

Maybe some people on TIMS are PHD students or have a son or daughter or know someone who is doing a phd and wants a subject to test for their phd?

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Postby blossom » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:01 am

andrew, i wish i could help you because then it would be more clear cut for people getting the ccsvi treatment as to what to do afterwards. as i told you, i was confused because of different comments. myself i will be inclining my bed again.

hopefully someone capable of your needs steps up.

sometimes it seems that some of the simplest things that could be the answer or at least a great help are the hardest to get recognized. it's a shame.
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New Pathways article about Inclined Bed Therapy (Download)

Postby AndrewKFletcher » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:25 am

The full IBT article can be downloaded directly from the Multiple Sclerosis Resource Centre Website from the link below and in much higher resolution than the previous download.

http://www.msrc.co.uk/downloads/npwm_2010_0062.pdf
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