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CureIous wrote:
All the more reason to make veno the gold standard with a little g and not all caps eh? That being said, my own septum flap doohicky wasn't cleared when the stent was put in 8/2009, only when the specific spot was angioplastied 4/2010, admittedly though that would not have alleviated my ccsvi in and of itself (trying not to put too much into the 4/2010 thing as it was for a specific non/ccsvi reason for the most part).
That may have something to do with the larger diameter of the right side (vs my left) , compared with the "skinniness" of the cath+balloon (whether a stent is on it or not). Very interesting thoughts though. This kind of begs the question "how scientific can the scientific study get?", unless things can be definitively, and categorically included or excluded. At what point will enough be enough? (evidence that is).
And once again, we are back to the stark reality, that without sham surgeries to include/exclude the placebo effect, or at least mute it somewhat, all results are arguable, oh except for the "no ccsvi in ms" studies from Germany and Switzerland. wink wink.
Mark.
But Mark, how do you know that reparation of the septum/flap/doohicky might not have put that vascular canal back into order? There must be a trial!
To satisfy intellectual and scientific curiosity, sham surgeries are great, but to we who live a life in hell (to varying degrees) every day, who cares? If sham surgeries are what it takes to satisfy the health care providers in Canada, many more will suffer needlessly. As a compassionate species, should we care if someone has relief of the horror for 10 days, or ten weeks, or ten years? I paid my 10 grand (equals six months in Mexico!) for 2 months of diminishing relief, and I did not have a sham surgery. It was real, and my relief was real - unless all of the doubt has instilled in me a nocebo effect. I don't have the freedom to have that real surgery (again), and follow-up at home, because someone wants sham surgeries. Then, someone will cry "hoax!", because those EAE mice have free jugular flow, but are still messed up.
The stark reality is that people are suffering while people who are not dick around with semantics.
This is getting goofy.
/rant
My name is not really Johnson. MSed up since 1993