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Postby PCakes » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:12 pm

scorpion wrote:I guess the new enemies are the journalists?


Scorpion...you are an accomplished writer.. i can't imagine it does not curl your toes to read articles that appear to be ground out with little or no research? "veins leading to the brain"..
enemies? no.. but i'd sure like them to play fair.
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Postby PCakes » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:17 pm

blossom wrote:.. let's all keep the faith that ccsvi treatment will soon be what slaps ms upside the head and it will never raise it's ugly head again.


:) yes..Blossom.. yesssssss!
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Postby 1eye » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:58 pm

Everybody takes short cuts. If a supposed "expert" feeds one journalist some phony biased falsehood, it is likely to pass from deadline to deadline, and "writer" to "writer", without a further thought. As long as these 'plausible deniers' exist, and are anxiously feeding the party line to all requests, and even gratuitously pushing it, the poor unsuspecting public will continue to be (intentionally) deceived. The bigger the lie...

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Postby MrSuccess » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:36 pm

So ....... this award winning journalist ...is a Stanford grad . :idea:

Might be connected .... to those ''open minded'' Neuro's in Stanford ... that have / are roadblocking Dr. Dake :idea:

Just throwing it out there ......... it's a small world :twisted:



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Postby orion98665 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:12 pm

I have a real problem with any news article either for or against CCSVI
that doesn't allow for it's readers to voice their opinions. What a biased
article! Makes you wonder if there isn't a hidden agenda behind this.

I think the more CCSVI proves itself out the more miss information
the media will report.


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Postby BooBear » Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:47 am

I like unicorns. I think we should all have one. :D
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Postby erinc14 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:19 am

scorpion wrote:
erinc14 wrote:that was originally in an edmonton paper . i'm guessing they copied it to irritate and sell papers . that name Paula Simons is burned in my brain . what a witch .


Wow. A witch for expressing her opinion? You guys just keep pushing people away....


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Postby cah » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:37 am

BooBear wrote:I like unicorns. I think we should all have one. :D


Wikipedia says that the horn of a unicorn is said to help against intoxication... maybe iron intoxication, too?

But even if you got one your neuro might keep telling you that it's a horse. :lol:
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Postby PCakes » Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:18 am

BooBear wrote:I like unicorns. I think we should all have one. :D


hahahaha..best response yet!! :D
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Postby L » Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:34 am

concerned wrote:So if it's against CCSVI, it's propaganda. If it's for CCSVI, it's...?

Oh wait, I read about CCSVI in the newspaper so it must be true.


There is also a third possibility.
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Postby MrSuccess » Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:47 am

I like unicorns also ..... but not behind me while I'm tying my shoes ... :wink:



What kind of serious journalist uses such a childish-like headline in a scientific article ? Answer : One desperate to be read.

Once again ...... the Stanford connection has Mr. Success concerned :twisted:




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Postby concerned » Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:31 am

L wrote:
concerned wrote:So if it's against CCSVI, it's propaganda. If it's for CCSVI, it's...?

Oh wait, I read about CCSVI in the newspaper so it must be true.


There is also a third possibility.


And what's that?
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Postby L » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:19 pm

concerned wrote:
L wrote:
concerned wrote:So if it's against CCSVI, it's propaganda. If it's for CCSVI, it's...?

Oh wait, I read about CCSVI in the newspaper so it must be true.


There is also a third possibility.


And what's that?


Well, if you're not 'for CCSVI' and your not 'against CCSVI' you're impartial, right? You report both sides of the story. Save the bias for an editorial.
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Postby Shueywho » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:25 pm

I agree with you L, we need more impartial reporting on this. I don't want to read miracle stories, or skewed science with an agenda, but facts when known or discovered would really be nice. Follow the science to where it leads you.
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Postby concerned » Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:09 pm

L wrote:
concerned wrote:
L wrote:
concerned wrote:So if it's against CCSVI, it's propaganda. If it's for CCSVI, it's...?

Oh wait, I read about CCSVI in the newspaper so it must be true.


There is also a third possibility.


And what's that?


Well, if you're not 'for CCSVI' and your not 'against CCSVI' you're impartial, right? You report both sides of the story. Save the bias for an editorial.


I just haven't heard many people getting angry about pro-CCSVI articles I guess. I agree that impartial reporting is the ideal, but in a world where fox news is 'fair and balanced' I don't think there's much hope for that.
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