McMaster (Hamilton) Study Results

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McMaster (Hamilton) Study Results

Postby oreo » Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:21 pm

Study results realesed by McMaster University suggest that it might be wise to wait a year or so before proceeding with any procedure that might involve stent placement and possibly even simple angioplasty.

"An alternative to the commonly-used blood thinner warfarin is expected to be available to patients within a year after a McMaster University study showed the easier-to-use drug is safe and effective."

STUDY

There were 3 other studies from McMaster presented at the same time, for a total of 4 blood thinner studies.

"Cardiology experts from around the world were presented with a quartet of McMaster studies showing ways to improve the use of blood thinners."

THE OTHER 3 STUDIES
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Postby 1eye » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:20 pm

Yes, let's wait, shan't we? Let's wait and wait. We've got all the time in the world. Waiting. That sounds like a plan. Now what shall we play while we're waiting? A year you say? MORE. Let's wait two years. Just to be safe.
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Postby Cece » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:35 pm

The drug is easier to use but just as safe and effective? Or am I misreading that? it does not sound like a reason to wait.
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Postby drbart » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:26 pm

Cece wrote:The drug is easier to use but just as safe and effective? Or am I misreading that? it does not sound like a reason to wait.


They're talking about treatment if you have a stent. Typically you are put on aspirin for life plus something else, somewhere between Plavix for 2 months and Warfarin (Coumadin) for life.

The latter is something you Do Not Want. Ugh. It's not just that random cuts bleed until you put serious effort into them, but you can also get spontaneous sprained ankles (for example) or internal bleeding.

So I think this is all about blood treatment for stented folk. Again, I've heard stuff like stents auto-injecting thinners, and on the other side the notion that veins are different and Plavix et al are wasted.

I'm not an MD - my one experience with Coumadin and my friends' experiences with Plavix, Clexane, etc give some background.

YMMV
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Postby erinc14 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:26 am

1eye wrote:Yes, let's wait, shan't we? Let's wait and wait. We've got all the time in the world. Waiting. That sounds like a plan. Now what shall we play while we're waiting? A year you say? MORE. Let's wait two years. Just to be safe.
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Postby cheerleader » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:47 am

Just to be clear---this study has nothing to do with the CCSVI studies ongoing at McMaster with Dr. Haacke--- the original post was confusing.

This is a blood-thinner study. Patients who have been stented do not remain on blood thinner for life. Jeff's on a baby aspirin and the endothelial health program (natural, proteolytic enzymes)

Also want to clarify that one of the leaders in this blood thinner study, funded by Bristol Mayer and Pfizer, Dr. David Spence, has been very vocal in the press regarding his negative take on CCSVI research.
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