costumenastional wrote:I dont know if this has already been posted. If so i missed it.
Seems like the Italians are now training students and health care professionals in advanced doppler techniques for CCSVI.
Tuition Fee: 4.000,00 euro
Director: Prof. Paolo Zamboni
If someone knows how to contact the germans...
CureIous wrote:4k? Where do I sign up?
PCakes wrote:scorpion wrote:How is it that many of you conspiracy buffs do not even think this is suspisious? I mean first Zamboni says he discovers 100% a correlation between CCSVI and MS in his intial subjects which has not even been close to being reproduced by other researchers. It sounds like not even the docotrs he works closely with can find this high of a connection between CCSVI and MS. Than we have the fact that a lot of cofusion among patients and researchers was caused by Zamboni not being upfront about his "secret method" he used to discover CCSVI in his patients. Now suddenly he has developed the "MyLabVinco" which I guess is somehow callibrated to find CCSVI that no other current ultrasound can seem to detect accurately. On top up of that he is offering training, for 4,000,000, euros that will enable the lucky few to be able to read his ultra CCSVI identifier machine and make a diagnosis of CCSVI. It would be nice if Zamboni would explain the technology he uses in the mylabvino that makes it more sensitive to finding and identifying CCSVI than the other thousands of dopplers around the world. The more I read about this guy the more I smell a rat. Initially he was portrayed a modern day hero but if he is such a hero wouldn't he want to help as many people as possible by his sharing his EXACT protocol for identifying CCSVI. Sorry guys. Any bit of hope I had about Zamboni and his original study being legit has completly gone down the tubes. As I have had said before in science ,over time, theories should become easier and easier to prove and it seems like Zamboni's just continues to get more elusive. I believe that further studies into CCSVI are warranted but ceratinly the proof is FAR from in the pudding. MyLabVinco. As Charlie Brown would say "GOOD GRIEF"!!!
Good morning/afternoon .. First it is 4,000 euros not 4,000,000!! 'good grief' ... who would/could sign up? Next, there are costs associated with research.. Modern Day Hero or not, he is accountable for the money he spends and I'm guessing that the pharma's are not stepping up to assist. I am not a pharma conspirator, I've stated my opinions on this before.. they are pill manufacturers..it is not what they do. Simple. Move on. Dr Zamboni needs money to continue his research.. How do you propose he secure these funds otherwise?
Is there a possibility that some of these funds may be coming from the manfacturer of 'mylabvinco' (i am already calling this thing mylabvino) and for this support the good doctor is required to ensure that it's introduction is controlled and well advised?
Is it really more elusive? or are those 'trying' and failing having their papers published at lightening speed as maybe they have the resources and vested interest required to do so? hmmm?
Concerned, i support your questioning of motive and i only submit to offer up another view
scorpion wrote:That said I do not see some grand conspiracy but instead a study realeased by a decent human being who was looking for certain results and actually believed he had them but now can not admit he was wrong. The other possibilty is that Zamboni has done everything possible to shroud his method of discovery in a cloak of secrecy which does not seem plausible at all but hey, who knows.
scorpion wrote:That said I do not see some grand conspiracy but instead a study realeased by a decent human being ..
Lyon wrote:I'm a Gardener and not a Scientist so I don't get to dictate which rules of science have to be followed but giving someone the benefit of the doubt is the same as taking them at their word and it only seems fair that everyone should play by the same rules. I personally am not comfortable taking every researcher in every field of science at their word.Rokkit wrote:How come some of you guys have such a hard time giving Zamboni the benefit of the doubt on anything?
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