5 Weeks post balloon angio - can i weight train again now?

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5 Weeks post balloon angio - can i weight train again now?

Postby adamt » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:10 am

I lift weights 3x a week but since the balloon angio i had on both IJVs i havent trained due to the increased blood flow that occurs with weight training - cardio exercise = raised heart rate

its been 5 weeks since the balloon angio and was wondering if its ok to start lifting weights again now?

- i think i restenosed about 2 weeks ago as some 'pre-op' symptoms have come back:
stiff again wen first standing
balance bit poorer
fingers and feet are colder

- i also have May Thurner which wont be treated till December

thanks
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Postby CCSVIhusband » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:16 am

Adam, WHY wouldn't your MT get treated until December? Why wait?
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Postby adamt » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:38 am

because i will be getting re-ballooned in December in Belgium and this doctor said he would treat MT at the same time
- the dr in poland who performed my first procedure wouldnt enter via the left groin.

if i go through the nhs i wont get treated for MT until November at the earliest and would then go to Belgium in December for ballooning of the IJVs,

So to prevent two procedures i thought it would be more practical to wait the extra month and get both done at the same time
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Postby CCSVIhusband » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:48 am

sorry. Assumed you were from the US. I hate that our "healtcare czar" thinks the UK system is the ideal model. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Anyway.

My wife's doctor said she could resume normal activity a few days after her procedure. I would say you should be good by now ... but I'm no doctor.
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Postby Cece » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:23 pm

I think we either go by what our doctors tell us, knowing they don't really know, or try and speculate because we don't really know either.

With weight lifting, it has been said here that weight lifting can create a valsalva condition, if a person is lifting and straining. A valsalva would cause the jugulars to fill as blood flow is for the time stopped until the move is released. So a valsalva would stretch the jugulars out wide. I believe we are all performing valsalvas every time we, ahem, strain a bit while on the toilet. So we are probably not going to be able to avoid valsalvas 100% regardless, but is it good or bad to have this happen? Could a valsalva overstretch a jugular and cause more bleeding or injury at the angio site, leading to thrombosis or clotting?

While I don't know one way or the other, and I've also worried about the opposite (that if I continue to sleep on an inclined bed post-liberation, the jugulars will not be filling as they should and could be more likely to grow together in a clot), I will personally avoid weight-training hard enough to have a valsalva post-liberation until such time as it can be assumed that the angio site is fully healed. Also, maybe taking laxatives to avoid straining of the other sort would not be amiss either! But this is all speculation. I'm also thinking we should avoid sugar post-liberation because sugar in diabetics seems to spur on greater intimal hyperplasia growth; this is a cause of restenosis when it is not elastic recoil. But this is, as I said to start, all speculation.
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