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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby civickiller » Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:25 am

Dr. F i heard that the 2nd part of that upright MRI study, the trauma issue, now they are going to do upper cervical care and see the results. do you know if thats true?
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:44 am

Sunnee,
The cord is attached at the top by the dura mater of the brain and the dentate ligament of the cord to the foramen magnum. The dura mater also blends with the connective tissues of the upper cervical spine. The cord is attached at the bottom end by the filum terminale to the coccyx (tailbone). The filum terminale is part of the pia mater of the inner protective coat of the cord. The dentate ligament also follows the nerve roots out of the cord and blends with the dura mater of the inside of the spinal canal. The cord moves inside the spinal canal with movement of the spine.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Sunnee » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:27 pm

uprightdoc,

Its a shame that you cant be on both boards, duplicated. You need to be in a high traffic zone for new visitors to have the opportunity of a more balanced view re ccsvi its very weighted towards the one issue.

A problem with the cervical spine can restrict blood flow, people should be made aware of that possibility.

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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby blossom » Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:34 pm

sunnee, i and others feel as you do. the ones to feel sorry for are those that will miss out on dr.flanagan's thread that may be some of the ones that dr.flanagan's info. could very well be their answer or at least part of it.

with the upright mri studies being done that brings more proof forward and the connection this has to ccsvi {blood and csf} flow. this just boggles my mind.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:04 am

civickiller wrote:Dr. F i heard that the 2nd part of that upright MRI study, the trauma issue, now they are going to do upper cervical care and see the results. do you know if thats true?


Hi Civic,
I don't know if Dr. Raymod Damadian is doing additional studies using upper cervical intervention but Drs. David Harshfield and Scott Rosa are and I wouldn't be surprised if they all collaborated.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:43 am

Civic,
How old were you when you fell off the ladder and hit the back of your head, and how old were you when you were doing handstands and fell onto the top of your head?
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Dovechick » Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:52 am

Of the many things that people have tried to make a difference to their health, chiropractie is one that make more sense to me than others. Many people I know who have MS have reported serious neck or head injury prior to their diagnosis. I know of course that most people will have bumped their heads in their life time, but I am talking of whip lash, or falls from horses or out of trees, of severe hits/cuts to the head etc. So I am very happy to see the Upright Doctor on this forum. I hope to learn a lot.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:58 am

Thanks Dovechick. Trauma clearly plays a role in MS. Whiplash can cause Tsunami type inversion flows into the brain. Trauma also plays a role in Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease as well as other neurodegenerative diseases. I also suspect that spondylosis, scoliosis and stenosis can also cause MS.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby civickiller » Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:22 am

uprightdoc wrote:Civic,
How old were you when you fell off the ladder and hit the back of your head, and how old were you when you were doing handstands and fell onto the top of your head?


it was a fall from a tree but anyways my mom today said it happened when i was 10, i thought 12. the fall from the handstands happened when i was 24, my first big MS symptoms, leg weakness.

i already had tinnitus and shocks with neck bending forward.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby NHE » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:12 am

As per Dr. Flanagan's request, I have relocated the thread back to the CCSVI forum.


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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby euphoniaa » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:42 am

NHE wrote:As per Dr. Flanagan's request, I have relocated the thread back to the CCSVI forum.


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And here I was - just sitting here finishing up a post about why I liked it in the chiropractic forum. :-D

More later. Will have to edit it now before posting it with my questions.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:43 am

I am not familiar with the layout of the TIMS website so when NHE suggested putting it under chiropractic I said okay. Since then I have had complaints from many of you who feel it should be part of the CCSVI discussions. This is a good point as this thread is more about the role of vertebral veins and CSF pathways in drainage problems and subsequent neurodegenerative diseases such as MS than it is about chiropractic. Chiropractic is only one part of the solution.

I would like to thank you all for your feedback and thank-you NHE for your help.

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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:48 am

Thank-you Euphonnia but I have been hearing it from respected senior family members who are very familiar with the layout of the site. At least NHE and I weren't totally out of whack with our thinking.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby euphoniaa » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:57 am

uprightdoc wrote:Thank-you Euphonnia but I have been hearing it from respected senior family members who are very familiar with the layout of the site. At least NHE and I weren't totally out of whack with our thinking.

I am also a respected "senior" family member who is VERY familiar with the layout of the site.
Dx'd with MS & HNPP (hereditary peripheral neuropathy) 7/03 but must have had MS for 30 yrs before that. I've never taken meds for MS except 1 yr experiment on LDN. (I found diet, exercise, sleep, humor, music help me the most.)
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby euphoniaa » Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:06 am

euphoniaa wrote:
uprightdoc wrote:Thank-you Euphonnia but I have been hearing it from respected senior family members who are very familiar with the layout of the site. At least NHE and I weren't totally out of whack with our thinking.

I am also a respected "senior" family member who is VERY familiar with the layout of the site.


P.S. I'm one of the long-time members (in years, not number of posts) who reads and posts in numerous forums, so it doesn't really matter to me at all where it is- I can find it anywhere. :-D In fact, I spend a lot of time steering newcomers to the different forums for answers.

Will post later why it took me so long to make a connection between this thread and my own cervical issues. Or maybe not. I don't need an argument. :smile:
Dx'd with MS & HNPP (hereditary peripheral neuropathy) 7/03 but must have had MS for 30 yrs before that. I've never taken meds for MS except 1 yr experiment on LDN. (I found diet, exercise, sleep, humor, music help me the most.)
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