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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:17 am

Hi doc,

Been to the chiropractor, he did manual traction.
My atlas is out of balance, he will treat the atlas also.
He treated the middle and lower back totday and felt my neck.

It was stronger than last week, he did not have a traction table in his room.

Next monday 2nd appointment
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:44 pm

Hello Robert,
The chiropractor should look at your scans to see the degree of spondylosis. You have long tract signs that suggest myelopathy due to the spondylosis and stenosis.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:35 pm

OK, i will tell him next week.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:48 am

Hi Doc,

The chiropractor has this equipment:
http://myovision.com/what-is-a-myovision-scan

The MyoVision Scan takes 90 seconds and is completely safe, painless and non-invasive. The MyoVision sEMG ScanVisions read the voltage that the muscles in your spine naturally emit. These readings look at the level of voltage and the patterns of directionality, which allows your healthcare professional to determine if your spine and nervous system are functioning optimally.


Useful?

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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:14 am

Hello Robert,
EMGs and thermograms are okay but standard orthopedic, neurological and muscle tests are much better. Needle electrode EMGs are rift with false positives and false negative tests. Surface electrode EMG are even more subject to error.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:27 am

uprightdoc wrote:Hello Robert,
EMGs and thermograms are okay but standard orthopedic, neurological and muscle tests are much better. Needle electrode EMGs are rift with false positives and false negative tests. Surface electrode EMG are even more subject to error.


They use EMG....so that's OK??
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:51 am

Do they do any other tests?
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:31 pm

uprightdoc wrote:Do they do any other tests?


I will ask monday.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:59 am

Hi doc,

I found a site where they seem to have a traction table and a traction system
http://www.vanzuilichempartners.nl/inde ... Itemid=110

What do you think??
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:56 am

Hi Doc,

Maybe interesting images...from may 2010, full color CT scan

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rgds,

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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby HappyPoet » Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:22 am

YIKES! Am I really seeing what I think I'm seeing?

Rob, are you missing segments from your ribs? The L T4 rib looks complete but ribbon thin, and the R T4 rib looks like it has a missing segment as do both sides of all ribs below. Can you feel with your fingers where the rib segments are missing when you follow the path of the ribs? What does the radiologist's report say? What did your doctors say
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:58 am

HappyPoet wrote:YIKES! Am I really seeing what I think I'm seeing?

Rob, are you missing segments from your ribs? The L T4 rib looks complete but ribbon thin, and the R T4 rib looks like it has a missing segment as do both sides of all ribs below. Can you feel with your fingers where the rib segments are missing when you follow the path of the ribs? What does the radiologist's report say? What did your doctors say

:lol: :lol: no, i'm not missing ribs, they are missing on the scan. But its indeed a freaky view :mrgreen:
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby HappyPoet » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:30 am

Haha! You got me, Rob!! Freaky is right.

I'm very glad your ribcage is fine. :)
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:25 am

Robnl wrote:Hi doc,

I found a site where they seem to have a traction table and a traction system
http://www.vanzuilichempartners.nl/inde ... Itemid=110

What do you think??


Hello Robert,

The website doesn't describe the type of traction equipment they use and it appears that they only do low back traction. You need cervical traction more than low back traction and you need a high quality traction table that can control the angle and strength of the pull as well as treatment, ramp (warm) up, strength etc..
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:33 am

Robert,
Your MRI and CT angiogram show a head tilt to the right. Specific upper cervical x-rays would be helpful.
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