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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:16 pm

Amen brother. The different disciplines definitely need to start talking to each other. Hopefully, when I get my Inn opened up for business I will do some seminars and see if I can speed things up a bit.

It's been a busy day. It's time for some music.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:02 pm

What kind of music? Hmm, you're a doctor.....must be classic :wink:
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:41 am

I reluctantly started with chord melody taught to me by a jazz musician when I was fourteen and more interested in riffs, licks and rock and roll. I don't any longer but I did play classic guitar many years ago. I especially liked Fernando Sor. Nowadays I play much easier pop music. Last night I played my own pieces.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby NZer1 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:04 pm

DNA Analysis Of Paracas Elongated Skulls Released. The Results Prove They Were Not Human
February 6, 2014

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Paracas is a desert peninsula located within the Pisco Province in the Ica Region, on the south coast of Peru. It is here were Peruvian archaeologist, Julio Tello, made an amazing discovery in 1928, a massive and elaborate graveyard containing tombs filled with the remains of individuals with the largest elongated skulls found anywhere in the world.



These have come to be known as the 'Paracas skulls'. In total, Tello found more than 300 of these elongated skulls, which are believed to date back around 3,000 years.

A DNA analysis has now been conducted on one of the skulls and expert Brien Foerster has released preliminary information regarding these enigmatic skulls. It is well-known that most cases of skull elongation are the result of cranial deformation, head flattening, or head binding, in which the skull is intentionally deformed by applying force over a long period of time.

It is usually achieved by binding the head between two pieces of wood, or binding in cloth. However, while cranial deformation changes the shape of the skull, it does not alter its volume, weight, or other features that are characteristic of a regular human skull. The Paracas skulls, however, are different.


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The cranial volume is up to 25 percent larger and 60 percent heavier than conventional human skulls, meaning they could not have been intentionally deformed through head binding/flattening.

They also contain only one parietal plate, rather than two. The fact that the skulls' features are not the result of cranial deformation means that the cause of the elongation is a mystery, and has been for decades.

Mr. Juan Navarro, owner and director of the local museum, called the Paracas History Museum, which houses a collection of 35 of the Paracas skulls, allowed the taking of samples from 5 of the skulls.

The samples consisted of hair, including roots, a tooth, skull bone and skin, and this process was carefully documented via photos and video. The samples were sent to the late Lloyd Pye, founder of the Starchild Project, who delivered the samples to a geneticist in Texas for DNA testing.

The results are now back, and Brien Foerster, author of more than ten books and an authority on the ancient elongated headed people of South America, has just revealed the preliminary results of the analysis. He reports on the geneticist's findings:

"It had mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far. But a few fragments I was able to sequence from this sample indicate that if these mutations will hold we are dealing with a new human-like creature, very distant from Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and Denisovans."

The implications are huge. "I am not sure it will even fit into the known evolutionary tree," Foerster wrote. He added that if the Paracas individuals were so biologically different, they would not have been able to interbreed with humans.

The results need to be replicated and more analysis undertaken before final conclusions can be drawn.

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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:23 pm

CCSVI Alliance Dr. Zamboni also stressed the importance of investigating the lumbar venous system, since PPMS and more progressive forms of MS are related to loss of blood flow to the spinal column. This is an area which needs more research.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:40 am

Nigel,

I will wait to hold judgment until the facts are in but the alien angle for the Paracas skulls sounds like pseudoscience to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracas_culture

http://doubtfulnews.com/2014/02/foerster-pye-and-ketchum-collaborate-paracas-elongated-skull-exposed-its/

As I mention in my book, it is my opinion that the people of Peru and Bolivia living in tight knit communities passed on genetic traits that predisposed them to hydrocephalus such as a hypoplastic posterior fossa and Chiari malformations. Left untreated hydrocephalus in children causes an a relatively symmetrical increase in the size and volume of the cranial vault. The shape of the head becomes round. Before shunts, children typically died young. I suspect that the shamen of Peru and Bolivia used cranial banding and trephination, also known as craniotomies, to treat hydrocephalus which is why the heads and cranial vault are larger but elongated not round in shape. Changing the shape of the cranial vault alters craniospinal hydrodynamics (hydraulics). Banding at an early age most likely caused craniosynostosis (fusion) and premature obliteration of the sagittal suture resulting in one parietal bone. The sutures typically fuse with age and can be obliterated in old people. The lamdoid and squamosal (temporal bone) sutures in the artificially deformed skulls I examined were wide open which suggested to me that they most likely had increased intracranial pressure. If my theory is correct the shamen of Peru and Bolivia were more successful at treating hydrocephalus than western doctors at the time. Interestingly, cranial banding is currently being used to treat craniosynostosis and cranial deformation in children. It is my opinion that it may be useful to the treatment of hydrocephalus. Shunts and stents are used to treat hydrocephalus and increased intracranial pressure. Craniotomies are currently used for decompression to treat hydrocephalus due to Chiari malformations.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:04 am

Robert,
I began investigating a link between the vertebral veins and neurodegenerative diseases around 1984. I published my first paper in 1988. I don't see how the lumbar veins can cause the signs and symptoms similar to myelopathy such as those seen in cases like yours. The problem is more likely due venous hypertension in the cervical and thoracic veins that cause ischemic degeneration of the cord. Venous hypertension may also cause myelopathy in certain cases. There are other arterial causes of degeneration of the cord related to the upper cervical and the lower spine but that's another story I will save for later.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:16 am

Nigel,

As I mention in my book, I do believe other intelligent life forms (aliens) visited this planet. The Great Pyramid of Giza and the Nazca lines a prime examples of evidence. In fact, there is tons of evidence in the forms of huge perfectly carved and perfectly placed stones all over the world that could not have been done by our ancestors who were primitive hunter gathers at the time without proper tools to chisel or move the stones.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:37 am

uprightdoc wrote:Robert,
I began investigating a link between the vertebral veins and neurodegenerative diseases around 1984. I published my first paper in 1988. I don't see how the lumbar veins can cause the signs and symptoms similar to myelopathy such as those seen in cases like yours. The problem is more likely due venous hypertension in the cervical and thoracic veins that cause ischemic degeneration of the cord. Venous hypertension may also cause myelopathy in certain cases. There are other arterial causes of degeneration of the cord related to the upper cervical and the lower spine but that's another story I will save for later.


So what dr. Zamboni asks you already investigated?
you should send him your papers...

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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby NZer1 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:36 pm

Just thinking about this makes my head swell, best get a bandage and some blocks of wood.

Humans are the great imitators and it makes me wonder which is the original skull shape and which is the modified assuming betterment?

Have we humans copied another life form, whether each originated on this planet or not?

So many theories will blossom from this finding, for some it is intellectual heaven coming across these remains!

Wonder what it says in religious records about this, nothing probably!

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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:18 pm

Robnl wrote: ... So what dr. Zamboni asks you already investigated?
you should send him your papers...

Rgds,

Robert


Robert,

While we both proposed venous insufficiency as a cause of neurodegenerative diseases, Dr. Zamboni' theory is completely different and it's related to the internal jugulars. My theory is about craniospinal hydrodynamics, which includes the arteries, vertebral veins and CSF flow. I sent a copy of my book and met with Drs. Haake and Dake. They are well aware of my theory. If they would like to learn more, I just wrote a fairly thorough paper for NUCCA's Monograph which should be published soon called "The role of the craniocervical junction in craniospinal hydrodynamics and neurodegenerative diseases." I included seventy references but didn't have time to put them into the text. I will be doing another similar paper soon for an Alzheimer's research association on my unifying theory for neurodegenerative diseases that will have the references in the text. There are many studies that backup my theory but it still has to be studied. Studies will require some serious funding to cover expensive upright MRI and Cine flow studies. More importantly it will require computer modeling as Cine flow studies are inadequate for studying the details of craniospinal hydrodynamics.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:21 pm

uprightdoc wrote:Nigel,

As I mention in my book, I do believe other intelligent life forms (aliens) visited this planet. The Great Pyramid of Giza and the Nazca lines a prime examples of evidence. In fact, there is tons of evidence in the forms of huge perfectly carved and perfectly placed stones all over the world that could not have been done by our ancestors who were primitive hunter gathers at the time without proper tools to chisel or move the stones.


Hmm, it is fascinating
http://www.2atoms.com/weird/ancient/plane.htm
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FCkmzftJkb ... CkmzftJkbE
http://www.stoptherobbery.com/AncientEvidence.html
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:33 pm

NZer1 wrote: ... Humans are the great imitators and it makes me wonder which is the original skull shape and which is the modified assuming betterment?

Have we humans copied another life form, whether each originated on this planet or not? ...

Nigel


Nigel,

Rather that copying another life form, we may have been created from genes of a higher life form mixed with primates or hominids. We are doing it now with plants and animals. It's hard to otherwise explain our rapid evolution and exceptional intelligence that is unparalleled in any other life form on earth including many that have been here far longer. Hominids were around for millions of years and did not evolve to nearly the same extent and yet modern humans went from hunter gatherers to astronauts in ten thousand years. Darwin's theory of adaptation fails to explain human intelligence.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby uprightdoc » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:49 pm

As I discuss in my book, I suspect that the Great Pyramid of Giza was used for combustion that worked similar to my Finnish style contraflow masonry fireplace. No one would have built such a magnificent structure and left it so plain on the inside if it was intended to be used as a burial chamber. The pyramids that were build by humans and used for burial chambers had much more appropriate and ornate interiors. In my opinion the great hall is the primary combustion chamber where biomass was burned. The king and queen's chambers were gasification chambers to combust the producer gas that comes from burning biomass. The shafts in the chambers were flues. The shaft in the Great Hall that connects to the pits below the pyramid was used for an ash dump. The pits was connected by a pathway to the main entrance so that the ash could be cleaned out. Firing up the pyramid periodically would produce long lasting infrared radiation that could easily be seen by space traveler using night vision type technology to navigate.
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Re: CCSVI and CCVBP

Postby Robnl » Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:29 am

Hi doc,

Question; as you said that my atlas is out of line, is it wise to correct it?

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