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But in the same time we don't know what was the presure in carotid artery? Was it normal to?

As you can see from diagram on previous page, from Dr. Zamboni's study, the pressure post-angioplasty in the IJVs he treated was up around 12.5 (in cm of H2O). By in Your/Zamboni standards, that is NOT normal. It is too high too ....You/Zamboni said normal is 5-9 (in cm of H2O). Still abnormal, angioplasty can't fix it.... is this pocedure useless??

once again ..... '' it won't work '' ..... is hardly scientific evidence

thankfully ...... those willing and able to offer more than verbal nonsense ..... appear to be meeting with some moderate success'.

On a very sad note ..... the procedure has not given the results desired -YET- for everyone . But tomorrow is another day.

The medical community is advancing ..... in spite of the critics .

I have not read one single medical paper or Trial result ..... that has me doubting CCSVI .... the diagnosis .... the treatment ..... or the incredible medical professionals supporting it .

As it is baseball season ..... and I like sports analogy's [ sp ... Pam ] .... CCSVI is like baseball ..... 10 batters come to the plate ..... the best ones hit the ball 3 out of 10 attempts .... some more ... some less ...... the so-called skeptics rejoice in all those fail - to - hit attempts . They say .... I told you it won't work [ hitting the ball ]

And they are right 70 -80 % of the time .

Right now CCSVI is batting low average ....... just give our batting coach's [ Zamboni , Dake , Haacke , Sclafani ... Hubbard ] more time to work with the team ..... [ Hey ... it's a new franchise ] and our averages will climb ....

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“Pretreatment pressures beyond the stenosis were not significantly different than normal venous pressure and there was no significant change in pressure after angioplasty. “

What bothers me about this quote is not that it has implications for CCSVI treatment if it were true but what it demonstrates about the accuracy of this report. The quote is part of a resume of Zamboni’s paper in 2009 and states that Zamboni measured no significant difference. In fact Zamboni reported the difference was significant with graphs, p values and the name of the test he used.

The authors of the piece of course have the right to disagree with Zamboni but if they summarise or quote from his work they must do so accurately. Failure to do that is unforgiveable in a piece which purports to be considered and authoritative. Since there are other factual errors in the report I cannot help but think this is merely a cynical attempt to enhance their CVs with another publication while contributing nothing new to the debate.

I think it is significant that papers like this one seem to get published very quickly (i.e. as soon as they are submitted) and they always contain obvious errors and very dodgy logic. They are not going to impress any serious researcher who actually knows the relevant literature.

pressure is not the same as flow

pressure does not come down, because pressure was low before treatment.;
however it is clear that flow is greater after angioplasty, all one has to do is see that the dye trickles out of the vein before treatment, and flushes out strongly after.

so if flow down the jugular vein is improved, it means that it does not have to flow through the small veins to find a way out.