This Is MS Multiple Sclerosis Community: Knowledge & Support

If you want to find out about real peoples experiences on CCSVI then I advise that you disregard posts by Lyon, Malden. Motiak, Concerned, Scorpion et al. These posters rubbish any supportive information concerning de-stenosis therapy. However they rarely present alternative information.

I gave one example, which was rubbished by the gang of nay-sayers:
- 2000 people with MS have received diagnosis and therapy with venoplasty.
The nay-sayers do not provide any information (its only 500 not 2000 for example).
Once I supported my case the nay-sayers do not ackowledge the accuracy of my information, just nay-say on something else.

So what is the percentage where MS progression has continued ??
Lets have an answer from the nay-sayers.

I repeat:
Early adoptors take a risk in having an invasive selective venogram and balloon venoplasty when only 2000 others have done this already. The amount of risk you are prepared to take is personal.
Being an early adoptor of any novel medical therapy is not without risk, but MS progression was a greater risk for me after my analysis of the facts. Its your personal decision to take without cast iron guarantees and at a cost around 10-15K USD.

I am a health professional and experienced business analyst and I am prepared to post my name, professional experience and my MS story for all to see. Lyon, Malden. Motiak, Concerned, Scorpion et al hide behind their pen names, ask yourself why you should trust them

Kind regards to all seekers after facts,

MarkW

That's about all I have to say. How about next time you read what I say instead of calling me rubbish.

jugular - what planet are you living on ? I would take MarkW's advice .

Have YOU actually read the content [ or actually LACK of
of content ] those - thankfully few - posters try to pass off
as intelligent skeptical questions ?

They make '' Moose '' .... look like a rocket scientist .

I would suggest you focus on the posts of the brighter lights
here at TIMS . A suggested list can be made available .

The older wiser TIMS posters have long ago washed their hands
free of these odious fools .



Mr. Success

If you want to find out about real peoples experiences on CCSVI then I advise that you disregard posts by Lyon, Malden. Concerned, Scorpion et al. These posters rubbish any supportive information concerning de-stenosis therapy. However they rarely present alternative information.

I gave one example, which was rubbished by the gang of nay-sayers:
- 2000 people with MS have received diagnosis and therapy with venoplasty.
The nay-sayers do not provide any information (its only 500 not 2000 for example).
Once I supported my case the nay-sayers do not ackowledge the accuracy of my information, just nay-say on something else.

So what is the percentage where MS progression has continued ??
Lets have an answer from the nay-sayers.

I repeat:
Early adoptors take a risk in having an invasive selective venogram and balloon venoplasty when only 2000 others have done this already. The amount of risk you are prepared to take is personal.
Being an early adoptor of any novel medical therapy is not without risk, but MS progression was a greater risk for me after my analysis of the facts. Its your personal decision to take without cast iron guarantees and at a cost around 10-15K USD.

I am a health professional and experienced business analyst and I am prepared to post my name, professional experience and my MS story for all to see. Lyon, Malden, Concerned, Scorpion et al hide behind their pen names, ask yourself why you should trust them

Kind regards to all seekers after facts,
and apologies to Motiak.

MarkW

jughead-Once again ..... filter out the w- a - d posters and their continual non-stop efforts to anger people .
Mr. Success

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:44 pm Post subject:
Posted by: Arron

Just a friendly reminder: We love the debating that's been going on lately because it forces people to think critically and challenge their own beliefs.

However, there can be too much of a good thing. If you disagree with someone, please succinctly state why and let it go at that. Point, counterpoint, counter-counter point, etc. is not useful-- the reality is that after the first disagreement, you will rarely convince another of something they feel strongly about unless you have shocking new information to share. The drawn-out debates also turn people off from reading the messages in the first place. If you really have to get something off your chest, please send that person a Private Message-- there is no need to have a long argument in public.

For the most part, everything on the board so far is just fine, but I want to keep it that way. We are all in this fight together; Let's focus all of our energies on trying to beat MS into submission, not each other. Smile

If you disagree with what I said (how ironic!), please drop me a private message. However, I have received enough comments from members that are in support of the above to feel confident about what I just posted.