This Is MS Multiple Sclerosis Community: Knowledge & Support

Welcome to the world's leading forum on Multiple Sclerosis research, support, and knowledge. For over 10 years, This is MS has provided an unbiased community dedicated to Multiple Sclerosis patients, caregivers, and affected loved ones.
It is currently Mon May 20, 2013 8:49 pm

View unanswered posts | View active topics


Board index » Treatments » Chronic Cerebrospinal Venous Insufficiency (CCSVI)

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 5 posts ] 
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
sbr487
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:24 am 
Offline
Family Elder
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:00 pm
Posts: 860
Location: India
Only abstract available ...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/207127

Quote:
Increased intraspinal venous pressure, resulting according to ABOULKER in numerous spastic paraplegias and quadriplegias is due to multiple venous abnormalities demonstrated by cavo-spinal phlebography. The most frequent are stenoses of the internal jugular veins, the left renal, the left iliac veins, the azygos veins and compressions of the innominate venous trunks. These abnormalities cause a permanent stasis in the intraspinal plexuses through excessive supply or insufficient drainage. Out of 80 patients, 60 per cent had at least 2 abnormalities, 38 per cent at least 3 abnormalities.

_________________
A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it
- Max Planck
Top
 Profile  
 
TMrox
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:31 am 
Offline
Family Elder
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:00 pm
Posts: 263
excellent finding!

Zamboni quotes this article:

"..regarding the causative role of CCSVI in MS, our review of the literature revealed descriptions of associations between the extracranial venous obstructive malformations described herein and disabling neurological pictures however, the latter were defined by these authors generically as myelopathies, without a precise diagnosis and any mention of MS"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2647682/

_________________
Diagnosed with Transverse Myelitis in December 2008. Inflammatory demyelination of the spinal cord (c3-c5). No MS, but still CCSVI.
Top
 Profile  
 
SaintLouis
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:51 am 
Offline
Family Elder
User avatar

Joined: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:00 pm
Posts: 149
What exactly is cavo-spinal phlebography?
Top
 Profile  
 
Nunzio
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:03 am 
Offline
Family Elder
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:00 pm
Posts: 254
Location: South Florida
This is very interesting considering it was done 34 years ago.
I already posted on Dr. Sclafani tread on Oct 27.
Nunzio wrote:
drsclafani wrote:
Nunzio wrote:
drsclafani wrote:
.



I also found a very interesting paper from 1976 that is very similar in finding to what Dr. Zamboni/Galeotti do:
Quote:
Cavo-spinal phlebography in myelopathies. Stenoses of internal jugular and azygos veins, venous compressions and thromboses.

Acta Radiol Suppl. 1976;347:415-7.
Leriche H, Aubin ML, Aboulker J.
Abstract

Increased intraspinal venous pressure, resulting according to ABOULKER in numerous spastic paraplegias and quadriplegias is due to multiple venous abnormalities demonstrated by cavo-spinal phlebography. The most frequent are stenoses of the internal jugular veins, the left renal, the left iliac veins, the azygos veins and compressions of the innominate venous trunks. These abnormalities cause a permanent stasis in the intraspinal plexuses through excessive supply or insufficient drainage. Out of 80 patients, 60 per cent had at least 2 abnormalities, 38 per cent at least 3 abnormalities.

Also is interesting to know that the same group performed surgery on some of those patient with good results.
Quote:
Acta Radiol Suppl. 1976;347:395-401.
[Intraspinal venous hypertension due to multiple anomalies in the caval system. A major cause of myelopathies]
Aboulker J, Aubin ML, Leriche H, Guiraudon G, Ancri D, Metzger J.
Increased venous intraspinal pressure is described as a venous system disease, resulting in numerous unexplained paraplegias and tetraplegias. The chronic venous stasis in the intraspinal plexuses, into which the circulation of the spinal cord is drained, is due to the association of multiple abnormalities (stenoses, compressions, thromboses) on the major pathways of the caval and azygos system. The abnormalities, most of which are not known, are demonstrated by a special procedure, the cavo-spinal phlebography, and some of them are subjected to surgery.

_________________
Everybody here brings happiness, somebody by coming,others by leaving.  PPMS since 2000<br />
Top
 Profile  
 
North52
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:54 pm 
Offline
Family Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:00 pm
Posts: 55
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Very interesting finding. I came across a similar but more recent study done in 1999.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20088446

North
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 5 posts ] 

Board index » Treatments » Chronic Cerebrospinal Venous Insufficiency (CCSVI)

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]

Related topics
 Topics   Author   Replies   Views   Last post 
There are no new unread posts for this topic. Doppler result= No Stenosis, phlebography needed??

adamt

12

1409

Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:50 am

frodo View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Had the Phlebography/Venogram today-All my veins are NORMAL!

[ Go to pageGo to page: 1, 2 ]

adamt

26

2368

Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:43 am

adamt View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Valves vs stenoses

greyman

10

1836

Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:24 pm

Zeureka View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Why do stenoses occur?

David1949

12

1538

Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:04 pm

Interrupted View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. To what extent are stenoses and reflux congenital?

radeck

11

1769

Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:33 pm

radeck View the latest post

 


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: