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Postby concerned » Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:58 am

Johnson wrote:I'm sorry to hear that, Joan. I encourage you to write to the administrator of that site, and the ISP, and demand the removal of those comments, and a published apology. It is libel, and Rose and the admin. (likely the same) are culpable for such as much as the author.


Does this sort of thing count here as well?
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Postby malden » Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:12 pm

concerned wrote:
Johnson wrote:I'm sorry to hear that, Joan. I encourage you to write to the administrator of that site, and the ISP, and demand the removal of those comments, and a published apology. It is libel, and Rose and the admin. (likely the same) are culpable for such as much as the author.

Does this sort of thing count here as well?

I don't think that Johnson was entirely informed in that moment he wrote that. I know that Johnson can objectivly considered everything as he get it. M.
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Postby BooBear » Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:47 pm

Libel is far different than an opposing view, or even a confrontational response. Libel is illegal; calling Joan by name and making statements without any facts that can be construed as damaging (accusations of fraud, for God's sake??? Really???) is not just wrong. It is something she could sue for- and for those that wrote those things, good luck. Learn from it.
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Postby gibbledygook » Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:48 pm

Who is Colin Rose? I note that he incorrectly refers to Dr. Paolo Zamboni in his articles. His correct title is Professor Zamboni. He is Professor of Surgery and Chair Master in Advanced Venous Surgery.
Does Colin Rose have similar qualifications and why does he not reveal them on his website?
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Postby concerned » Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:58 pm

I just found the offending comments. I guess I kept trying to find the name "joan", but the post that it's in just says JB.

Is Beveikrimtas a poster here?



Also from Colin Rose's site -

Eddievos said

November 27, 2009 at 11:25
Before you jump on Colin with comments like this, he IS a very senior cardiologist with probably about 10,000 diagnostic angiograms to his name; not only that, he’s an ass. prof. in medicine and has a PhD in physiology on top of his medical degree.
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Postby BooBear » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:11 pm

I am not doubting Dr. Rose's credentials, as they probably could be verified. But for Dr. Rose to call Prof. Zamboni a "leg vein doctor" is ridiculous.

http://www.isnvd.org/about/pzamboni/

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Postby CCSVIhusband » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:15 pm

concerned wrote:I just found the offending comments. I guess I kept trying to find the name "joan", but the post that it's in just says JB.

Is Beveikrimtas a poster here?



Also from Colin Rose's site -

Eddievos said

November 27, 2009 at 11:25
Before you jump on Colin with comments like this, he IS a very senior cardiologist with probably about 10,000 diagnostic angiograms to his name; not only that, he’s an ass. prof. in medicine and has a PhD in physiology on top of his medical degree.


How come you never answered if you're "moreconcerned" on dear Colin's website?

That would explain the mentality here a little bit methinks.
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Postby concerned » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:16 pm

I thought it was obvious, and think I've stated as much on his site. Maybe I just said I tried to pick the name concerned but it was already taken.
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Postby cheerleader » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:20 pm

thank you. I did not mean to debate Dr. Rose's positions on CCSVI and Dr. Zamboni, or discuss that here. He is certainly entitled to his positions. I merely wanted to have my full name and slanderous statements removed from his blog, and it appears that Dr. Rose is amenable to that. I've clarified what my financial interests are in CCSVI research. I think we can consider this thread closed.

Those who wish to discuss Dr. Rose and or his positions can start another thread, or go to his blog, but for the intents and purposes of my original post, I hope we can let this thread die a natural death.......
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Postby BooBear » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:25 pm

I am not doubting Dr. Rose's credentials, as they probably could be verified. But for Dr. Rose to call Prof. Zamboni a "leg vein doctor" is ridiculous.

http://www.isnvd.org/about/pzamboni/

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Postby scorpion » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:26 pm

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Postby BooBear » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:31 pm

My post crossed paths with Cheer's; sorry. Let this die along with all the unsubstantiated slurs.
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Postby jay123 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:28 pm

concerned wrote:... to his name; not only that, he’s an ass. prof. in medicine and has a PhD in physiology on top of his medical degree.


There's the key description of Rose!

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Postby malden » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:50 pm

cheerleader wrote:thank you. I did not mean to debate Dr. Rose's positions on CCSVI and Dr. Zamboni, or discuss that here. He is certainly entitled to his positions. I merely wanted to have my full name and slanderous statements removed from his blog, and it appears that Dr. Rose is amenable to that. I've clarified what my financial interests are in CCSVI research. I think we can consider this thread closed.

Those who wish to discuss Dr. Rose and or his positions can start another thread, or go to his blog, but for the intents and purposes of my original post, I hope we can let this thread die a natural death.......
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Thank you, I don't meen to debate cherlider, but she open this Pandora's box, and she can't close it now, when she want.

One's opened, this thread has it's own life and you can't make it die...
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Postby HappyPoet » Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:24 am

Malden, if you stray too far over the line, you just might find your posts moved to the Site Support forum.

Edits: It seems most of Malden's comments have been deleted. Good work, everyone who sent in a PM to jimmylegs.

Cheer, for almost twelve hours last night and into this morning, from the time I sent in my PM to jimmylegs last night until this post of mine today, I waited for jimmylegs to do something to Malden's post, but nothing happened. So I felt I needed to do something more -- I decided to post against your wishes, for which I sincerely apologize, but I do hope you understand why I felt I had to do something more... I did not want Malden to get away with what he said about you just because jimmylegs didn't receive her required "more than five PMs."

Please know that I wanted my post to Malden to be much stronger, but because jimmylegs and NHE have, for reasons unknown to me, moved/deleted/altered some of my recent posts, I had no choice but to water down what I really wanted to say to Malden so that my post wouldn't disappear altogether.
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