codefellow wrote:One of the arguments against the auto-immune theory of MS is that it has never been proven, after 50 years and billions of dollars in research, what we have is:
1) Take this drug. It might help.
2) If it works, we don't know why.
3) If it doesn't work, we don't know why.
4) If it works, but only a little, we don't know why.
5) Its gonna make you feel terrible.
6) It might actually make your symptoms worse.
7) In fact it might actually kill you.
But you should take it because you have MS.
But I digress....are there ANY diseases which we KNOW are auto-immune diseases? That have been PROVEN to be auto-immune diseases? If so, just because I am a curious fellow, I would like to know what makes those diseases different from MS?
Thanks for any brave soul who knows enough medicine to answer my question. (Of course, your answer will in no way be considered to be medical advice.)
scorpion wrote: When you have an autoimmune disease, your immune system attacks healthy cells in your body by mistake.
scorpion wrote:You could make the same argument about cancer treatment I guess.
scorpion wrote:I am not sure why you think autoimmune diseases do not exist?
Lyon wrote:Not that I'm a valid source but the point I was trying to make is that far simpler than we're trying to make it. The term auto-immunity was only intended to generally describe ailments the medical community had been seeing, for communication purposes.
It only means attacking self and no distinction was/is made whether or not the immune system was the original instigator or whether or not the immune system is/was acting appropriately in attacking self.
In that light the 87 or so diseases which are called auto-immune diseases are auto-immune diseases and after that everything else is, of course, up for argument.
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