concerned wrote:concerned wrote:
Shouldn't people only be getting it done in a phase I trial or something?drsclafani wrote:we do not need phase one trials for angioplasty of the jugular vein. that is nonsense fed to you by someone who appears to know nothing about venous angioplasty.
Well, you could note the "or something" as I am not a medical professional and I don't know all the subtle nuances of the terminology, however, I am trying to learn.
I just meant that in treating MS, it should be clearly demonstrated to the medical world at large that it is a viable MS treatment and enough to justify the hysteria and paranoia that has engulfed this grassroots movement. (If you want to argue that point I have treasure troves of messages insinuating that I'm an employee of a big pharma firm.)
Emotional pleas are all fine and dandy, but inadequate in satiating the desires of the scientific community, namely, a desire for proof. So please just clearly demonstrate it in a reputable journal how CCSVI causes or is a major co-morbidity factor in MS and how "Liberation" could alleviate MS symptoms and we can end all this suspense.
Fair point. i wish it were so simple. it will take five years to prove what you ask, at best. in the meantime, patients have diseased veins which do cause symptoms in patients Without MS. Why must we show an association between the two? A stenosed vein is a stenosed vein regardless of what the co-morbidities are. Angioplasty is known to improve cogniitive dysfunction, fatigue, confusion, to name of few symptoms of venous outflow obstruction.
i do not treat ms.
i treat symptoms such as fatigue, memory and cognitive deficiency, etc caused by venous stenosis. please show evidence that anything currently works for these problems. currently prescribed medications for some of these symptoms are not fda approved for treatment of ms.
concerned, the data is being collected. in the meantime people are dying with no good options. This will just have to run its course.