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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:52 pm 
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A curious (probably not original) thought:

If there are these high iron deposits in the brain of an MS patient, and MS is more prevalent in countries further from the equator (and considering that the Earth's magnetic field gets stronger the further you go from the equator towards the North and South Pole), is it not possible that:

1. the position you sleep in at night (ie. body lined up so the head points north or south) could influence where iron deposits itself/recirculates? Especially if you have atherosclerotic/stenotic veins obstructing blood flow?

2. is it possible that atherosclerosis/stenosis/vein size and anatomy could be the genetic factor that predisposes you to this? Conversely if genetics aren't a factor, is it not possible that an unhealthy/high saturated fat/sedentary lifestyle could lead to fat deposition/stenosis of veins (and probably blood vessels in general over time) and cause the very same problem?

3. In this 'vein', could magnetic therapy be an option (something like a magnetic therapy pad), or repositioning of the bed (obviously something to do after the stenosis has been resolved with something like CCSVI surgery) along with dietary/lifestyle changes to prevent recurrence?

Or the more interesting question, has anyone had success with magnetic therapy of any sort themselves?? (though it seems the iron in your blood is chemically bound to your hemoglobin and likely not magnetically sensitive.....and if red blood cells were magnetic, then putting a human into an MRI would kill them instantly/tearing them to shreds.....rendering this whole post useless? haha)


Just some (maybe not quite scientific enough) thoughts from a newbie;)

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welcome Ira - those are interesting ideas you have .

a question for you : if your idea has merit ...... what do you propose as the solution to the problem.

Who wants to live in the Antarctic ? :wink:


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Welcome to the forum!

I read once that MRIs have an unexpected positive effect on depression. This was from a research study but I don't know if it held up.


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whenever there's a discussion of vitamin D someone from california or florida jumps in saying it's a bogus idea since they grew up in the sun and still got ms. So several times over the years I've thought of magnetic fields. The iron angle is new.
Bioelecricty the notion that the cns is an electrical amgnetic machine and not just a chemistry problem seems pretty important and unexplored. In physics terms the work is very newtonian and could probably benefit from an einsteinian perspective.

ccsvi is refreshingly mechanical, but once the plumbing is fixed we are left with old questions from the epidemiology of ms. Did you hear that varicose veins also occur more away from the equator?


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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20816824

Exp Neurol. 2010 Nov;226(1):173-82. Epub 2010 Sep 15.
Exposure to extremely low-frequency (50 Hz) electromagnetic fields enhances adult hippocampal neurogenesis in C57BL/6 mice.

Cuccurazzu B, Leone L, Podda MV, Piacentini R, Riccardi E, Ripoli C, Azzena GB, Grassi C.
Institute of Human Physiology, Catholic University Medical School, Rome, Italy.

Throughout life, new neurons are continuously generated in the hippocampus, which is therefore a major site of structural plasticity in the adult brain. We recently demonstrated that extremely low-frequency electromagnetic fields (ELFEFs) promote the neuronal differentiation of neural stem cells in vitro by up-regulating Ca(v)1-channel activity. The aim of the present study was to determine whether 50-Hz/1 mT ELFEF stimulation also affects adult hippocampal neurogenesis in vivo, and if so, to identify the molecular mechanisms underlying this action and its functional impact on synaptic plasticity. ….Our findings show that ELFEF exposure can be an effective tool for increasing in vivo neurogenesis, and they could lead to the development of novel therapeutic approaches in regenerative medicine.

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hi irakplan, this is interesting. thanks for this food for thought brought to tims.

say there is something to this-after all-until the total mystery of ms is solved, how can anything be ruled out? at least as a contributing factor at least for some of us.


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Any such relationships would have to bear two factors in mind:

a) the north & south magnetic poles are nowhere near the 'TRUE' poles, and

b) the magnetic poles are constantly on the move at a speed of about 25 miles/year.

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