This Is MS Multiple Sclerosis Community: Knowledge & Support

Welcome to the world's leading forum on Multiple Sclerosis research, support, and knowledge. For over 10 years, This is MS has provided an unbiased community dedicated to Multiple Sclerosis patients, caregivers, and affected loved ones.
It is currently Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:36 am


All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: EGCG
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:56 pm 
Offline
Family Elder
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:00 pm
Posts: 106
Location: USA
Hi Joan,

Is it possible to get EGCG without getting caffeine along with it?

I have hesitated to drink green tea for that reason (because caffeine is a vasoconstrictor), but I can see I really should be taking EGCG. One of my brain MRI's said that I have hypoperfusion.

Any tips on a good source of decaffinated EGCG is appreciated. I have floundered around with only very occasionally drinking a cup of green tea. Oh, and I can't swallow large pills (anything larger than an asprin or one of those tiny vitamin D capsules), so that is limiting too...

thanks,

Mary Ann

_________________
DX 6-09 RRMS


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:49 pm 
Offline
Family Elder
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:00 pm
Posts: 440
This is a great thread. :-) I need to make some changes.

I wonder how anemia might play into this.

Mary Ann, did you grow up in a green tea culture?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: EGCG
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:29 pm 
Offline
Family Elder
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:00 pm
Posts: 4695
Location: southern California
ThisIsMA wrote:
Hi Joan,

Is it possible to get EGCG without getting caffeine along with it?

I have hesitated to drink green tea for that reason (because caffeine is a vasoconstrictor), but I can see I really should be taking EGCG. One of my brain MRI's said that I have hypoperfusion.

Any tips on a good source of decaffinated EGCG is appreciated. I have floundered around with only very occasionally drinking a cup of green tea. Oh, and I can't swallow large pills (anything larger than an asprin or one of those tiny vitamin D capsules), so that is limiting too...

thanks,

Mary Ann


Hi Mary Ann-
We've tried these capsules...they're rather smallish, and decaffeinated:
link
You could also look for a liquid green tea concentrate, and mix it in water...I think there are some on the market. Easier to swallow.
HTH,
cheer

_________________
Husband dx RRMS 3/07
dx dual jugular vein stenosis (CCSVI) 4/09
dual stents placed 5/09
CCSVI in MS


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:17 pm 
Offline
Family Elder

Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:00 pm
Posts: 8554
Here's a study in which people with optic neuritis were administered the Farnsworth hue test.
www.iovs.org/content/38/11/2278.short
Quote:
Color vision defect type and spatial vision in the optic neuritis treatment trial.

M E Schneck and G Haegerstrom-Portnoy

Abstract

PURPOSE: To describe the types of color vision defects present in the acute phase of the disease and 6 months into recovery in the 438 participants of the Optic Neuritis Treatment Trial.

METHODS: Patients meeting strict eligibility criteria were seen within 8 days of the onset of symptoms and then at regular follow-up visits. At the first and 6-month visits (and subsequent annual visits), spatial vision (acuity, contrast sensitivity), visual fields, and color vision were measured. Farnsworth-Munsell 100-hue tests were scored by a variant of the method of quadrant analysis described by Smith et al (Am J Ophthalmol. 1985; 100:176-182).

RESULTS: Most persons show mixed red-green (RG) and blue-yellow (BY) color defects (one type predominating, accompanied by a lesser defect of the other type). BY defects tend to be slightly more common in the acute phase of the disease, with slightly more RG defects at 6 months. Persons may shift defect type over time. Defect type was not related to any of the spatial vision measures at either test time or to treatment group; however, severity of color defect was related to both spatial vision measures and treatment group.

CONCLUSIONS: Contrary to common clinical wisdom, optic neuritis is not characterized by selective RG defects. Color defect type cannot be used for differential diagnosis of optic neuritis.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Related topics
 Topics   Author   Replies   Views   Last post 
There are no new unread posts for this topic. Narcotic sensitivity

CRHInv

0

813

Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:22 am

CRHInv View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. CCSVI and MS Heat Sensitivity

ozarkcanoer

2

1283

Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:38 pm

ozarkcanoer View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Hypoxia and hemoglobin?

msa

1

1010

Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:10 am

mrhodes40 View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. hypoxia in newborns

Cece

0

871

Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:44 pm

Cece View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Hypoxia, smoking and EBV---

cheerleader

3

717

Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:18 am

MrSuccess View the latest post

 


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


News News Site map Site map SitemapIndex SitemapIndex RSS Feed RSS Feed Channel list Channel list
Read hundreds of personal Multiple Sclerosis stories on Experience Project. Experience Project is an anonymous community where people connect through their life experiences, made by the same people who built This is MS. With over 30 million personal stories about every possible life experience, you can quickly find people like you!


Interesting: Secret Confessions | Dream Meanings | Ask Questions, Get Answers

Advertise on the premier multiple sclerosis forum