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- civickiller
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in my opinion....things will get overlooked because the doctors do not yet have enough experience with CCSVI.but when they get the liberation procedure, wont the dr find everything thats wrong or will things get overlooked because it didnt show up on the test?
But yes, catheter venogram beats ultrasound. Catheter venogram plus ivus beats them both....
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Hooch, the azygos, as well as other veins in the chest and lumbar/pelvic region, are not able to be properly evaluated by Doppler ultrasound. These are checked during the procedure by a venogram.Hooch wrote:The technician in Barrie told me that she had a way of checking that the azygous was open using the doppler ultrasound. I am a Dr Siskin patient and he couldn't find my azygous but Angela said I did have one and that I had bloodflow through it!
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Cece, bit of mixing different evaluations that are used for different purposes. Both the venogram and IVUS are used during the procedure. The IVUS augments the venogram by better evaluating the inner walls of the veins during the procedure.Cece wrote: But yes, catheter venogram beats ultrasound. Catheter venogram plus ivus beats them both....
The Doppler ultrasound is vital for both pre and post testing. When done properly it is used to evaluate venous flow in both the neck and deep cerebral veins. It is also used to evaluate the valves, both their location and functionality. Another use is to compare supine to seated blood flow - another key component to Dr. Zamboni's protocols.
This is why Dr. Zamboni has repeatedly stated that the gold standard is Doppler plus Venogram - Doppler for evaluation and Venogram for treatment. Unfortunately this is often misquoted by others stating that the standard is just venogram.
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do you think PI is experienced enough not to overlook things?Cece wrote: in my opinion....things will get overlooked because the doctors do not yet have enough experience with CCSVI.
But yes, catheter venogram beats ultrasound. Catheter venogram plus ivus beats them both....
how does the full zamboni procedure differ from haacke protocol?
Pacific Interventional has a new video of the CCSVI procedure. Click on the left upper corner, where it directs you.
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http://www.pacificinterventional.com/about_ccsvi.html
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http://www.pacificinterventional.com/about_ccsvi.html
I've had both, they both take over an hour, they both were informative and correct in my case. Since the ultrasound is cheaper and just as good or better, it is preferred, imo. Are you thinking of going with PI, civickiller? I am excited now for everyone who chooses to get this done, now that I've had it myself.civickiller wrote:do you think PI is experienced enough not to overlook things?Cece wrote: in my opinion....things will get overlooked because the doctors do not yet have enough experience with CCSVI.
But yes, catheter venogram beats ultrasound. Catheter venogram plus ivus beats them both....
For what I mean by venogram beats ultrasound, etc, if you showed me an ultrasound and a venogram image that were contradictory (of the same patient), the venogram would be the one I'd trust. And if you showed me a venogram image alone or a venogram and IVUS images, of the two the venogram with the added information from the IVUS would be the one I'd trust. I agree about the value of the Zamboni protocol ultrasound and that pre- and post- procedure follow-up ultrasounds are a good idea.
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Hooch,CCSVI_Atlanta wrote:Hooch, the azygos, as well as other veins in the chest and lumbar/pelvic region, are not able to be properly evaluated by Doppler ultrasound. These are checked during the procedure by a venogram.Hooch wrote:The technician in Barrie told me that she had a way of checking that the azygous was open using the doppler ultrasound. I am a Dr Siskin patient and he couldn't find my azygous but Angela said I did have one and that I had bloodflow through it!
The azygos vein is not seen with doppler ultrasound. We look for the presence of epidural veins near the vertebral veins. This tells us there may be a problem with the azygos vein.
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An interesting confirmation of sorts (though this mentions the IVC ... not the azygous) ... it also mentions the IJVs ...Lanie wrote:Hooch,CCSVI_Atlanta wrote:Hooch, the azygos, as well as other veins in the chest and lumbar/pelvic region, are not able to be properly evaluated by Doppler ultrasound. These are checked during the procedure by a venogram.Hooch wrote:The technician in Barrie told me that she had a way of checking that the azygous was open using the doppler ultrasound. I am a Dr Siskin patient and he couldn't find my azygous but Angela said I did have one and that I had bloodflow through it!
The azygos vein is not seen with doppler ultrasound. We look for the presence of epidural veins near the vertebral veins. This tells us there may be a problem with the azygos vein.
Lanie
http://neuroradiologyonthenet.blogspot. ... dural.html
Does anyone have a diagram of where the epidural veins are? I can't find them on wiki or any other google source quickly.
edit: oops, does mention the azygous.
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