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Postby David1949 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:08 am

I suppose it depends on what you mean by liberal. In the US there are many liberals who would like to see a Canadian style health care system created here. But under our current health care system you can get treatment for CCSVI. Under the Canadian health care system you can't, not even if you pay for it yourself.
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Postby PCakes » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:22 am

Doodles wrote:I think MS sufferers in Canada should take a very careful look at the MPs who have supported us regardless of party affiliation. MS sufferers are being discriminated against and if we allow that discrimination to continue with us who is next? This is not just an argument about MS sufferers, it is an argument about discrimination, about the violation of basic human rights and that transcends MS sufferers. We are the target now but I ask again, who will be next if we don't win our battle?


I agree, and ask again ..Is there a list of MP's who attended any of Dr. Duncan's sessions?
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Postby thornyrose76 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:30 pm

Voting your conscience is great but the issue is a matter of practicality and Ignatieff is on record stating that he would support funding clinical trials. If you want this here, vote Liberal- otherwise fundraise or use all your life savings to get proper treatment STATESIDE! That's the reality!
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Postby nicknewf » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:45 pm

Bias declared - I am a lifelong supporter of the Liberal party.

The current government simply does not care about this issue; they have had a chance to do something - and some of their own party members have come out in favour of doing something - but they haven't. Their choice of minister shows a disdain for role of the federal government of healthcare.

It is statistically impossible for the NDP to win enough of the swing ridings to even form a minority government - but this is not to say that the Liberals and NDP could not theoretically form a coalition government if they take all the swing ridings up for grabs. In fact, it is very unlikely that the Liberals could form a majority without the complete collapse of the NDP given how the vote is split in Canada.

If you happen to live in the swing ridings noted here - http://www.electionprediction.org/2009_fed/index.php - consider placing a strategic vote to support the most likely candidate to beat the conservative incumbent. Or to prevent a split between the Liberals and NDP (my preference would be Liberal of course as noted above - but my actual MP is a very popular NDP candidate and I will vote strategically if need be).

Best of luck to all; and let's hope that who ever gets in, takes a long hard look at this file and does the right thing finally.

IMHO
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Postby jackiejay » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:31 pm

I did not realize the MS society had written to all MPPs advising them not to fund clinical trials....how depressing is that!...I just heard one of their ads for the MS walk..."we will end MS"..hippocrites...also how do you get the College of Physicians and Surgeons to recognize CCSVI?....do we write letters to them or get your doctor to do this....assuming you have one that thinks outside the box.
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Postby Doodles » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:49 pm

I don't think a doctor would write to the College of Physicians and Surgeons but individuals can and should and perhaps include the link to the studies presented at the ISNVD conference in Italy (www.isnvdannualmeeting.org/press-area.html). The results presented are amazing and deserve extensive coverage everywhere.
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Postby PCakes » Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:50 pm

Doodles wrote:I don't think a doctor would write to the College of Physicians and Surgeons but individuals can and should and perhaps include the link to the studies presented at the ISNVD conference in Italy (www.isnvdannualmeeting.org/press-area.html). The results presented are amazing and deserve extensive coverage everywhere.

Contact info..

1. College of Physicians and Surgeons of B.C.
Tel: (604) 733-7758
Fax: (604) 733-3503
Website: www.cpsbc.ca

2. College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta
Tel: (780) 423-4764
Fax: (780) 420-0651
E-mail: info@cpsa.ab.caThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
Website: www.cpsa.ab.ca

3. The College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario
Tel: (416) 967-2626
Fax: (416) 961-3330
E-mail: feedback@cpso.on.caThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
Website: www.cpso.on.ca

4. The College of Physicians and Surgeons of Manitoba
Tel: (204) 774-4344
Fax: (204) 774-0750
E-mail: cpsm@cpsm.mb.caThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
Website: www.cpsm.mb.ca

5. Collège des médecins du Québec
Tel: (514) 933-4441
Fax: (514) 933-3112
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Website: www.cmq.org

6. College of Physicians and Surgeons of New Brunswick
Tel: (506) 849-5050
Fax: (506) 849-5069
E-mail: info@cpsnb.orgThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
Website: www.cpsnb.org/english/who.html

7. College of Physicians and Surgeons of Nova Scotia
Website: www.cpsns.ns.ca

8. College of Physicians and Surgeons of Newfoundland and Labrador
Tel: (709) 726-8546
Fax: (709) 726-4725
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Website: www.cpsnl.ca

9. The College of Physicians and Surgeons of Saskatchewan
Tel: (306) 244-7355
Fax: (306) 244-0090
E-mail: cpss@quadrant.netThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
Website: www.quadrant.net/cpss

10. Nunavut Health and Social Services
Website: www.gov.nu.ca/hsssite/hssmain.shtml

11. Yukon Health and Social Services
Tel: (867) 667-3673
Fax: (867) 667-3096
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Website: www.hss.gov.yk.ca

12. Northwest Territories Medical Association
Tel and Fax: (867) 920-4575
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Website: www.nwtma.ca

13. The College of Physicians and Surgeons of P.E.I.
Tel: (902) 566-3861
Website: www.cpspei.ca/contact
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Postby mavis » Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:47 pm

I am voting for Liberals for sure (it wouldn't be something new for me anyway).
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Postby fiddler » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:50 pm

I prefer to vote for the local candidate and not just on one issue, but for me there is already a lot to dislike about this current government (ethics, democratic deficiency, etc)... their attitude towards us is just the icing on the cake. In the latest news, it seems that the latest funding they are promising to `study MS` may be going to the Canadian Network of MS Clinics, and that organization is basically warning people not to do anything about CCSVI (but does promote lots of new drugs). When you click on the Contact Us button for the Network, you get the contact info for our dear friend Dr. Freedman!

So, Dr. Freedman and the Harper regime... a marriage made in h... (you can type in the missing letters) for MSers.
Dx SPMS in 2004.  Liberated 29/04/2010.
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Postby Blaze » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:17 pm

Well, it's official. Canadians will be going to the polls in May.

Sounds like it will be a very nasty election on several fronts.
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Postby mavis » Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:08 pm

And fingers are getting itchy already :)
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Vote Liberal

Postby 1eye » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:46 am

Do we vote Liberal?

Yes. Next question?
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Postby Blaze » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:53 am

Let's make a difference on May 2!
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Postby PCakes » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:51 am

Liberals - Dr Kirsty Duncan

Conservatives - Dr Mark Freedman & Dr Anthony Traboulsee

The choice is clear.

Yes, Dr Duncan can still be elected in her riding. She will have a seat in parliament but a Liberal win would put the wind in her sails.

Vote LIBERAL!!!
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Postby PCakes » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:32 am

Check this out... http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadav ... tecompass/

Great tool. You might be surprised. Once you've completed the questionaire you can compare your answers to the various party's opinions by clicking the 'your position per statement' tab in the results section.

p.s. Vote LIBERAL!! :)
Dr. Michael Ignatieff, Leader of the Liberal Party in Canada , has stated publicly (e.g., in an interview with the Globe and Mail, 16 December 2010) that a Liberal Government would launch clinical trials that include testing of and treatment for CCSVI in MS sufferers.
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