Lyon wrote:That said, my wife doesn't have aggressive or late stage MS so we have the luxury of not acting out of desperation and wishful thinking and instead looking at the "science" pragmatically and accepting that it's just not "there" yet.
THEGREEKFROMTHED wrote:Thanks for the entertainment! Love the back and forth bantering. Its healthy and at times even productive. I think we need a forum on this site where we could implement a boxing simulator that would allow us to put gloves on and beat the living tar out of each other. Kind of like the Wii Boxing that my twin eight year olds have been able to ehaust their emotional and physical tension. Would really be great for me since i am in this chair 24/7!
do we have any experts in this forum that could add a game sequence??
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Lyon wrote:Now there is the crux of the communication problem. You know, or at least think you know what you know, but are convinced that everyone who doesn't take it only at your word is an idiot, despite the fact that I know darned well you're smart enough to realize that science just can't and shouldn't involve nothing more than word of mouth.CureIous wrote: You guys have both elevated this to an art form.... Such luxuries, would that we all had such luxuries... lol indeed.
Wanna come work 7/12's with me starting next week? That was a *reward* for stellar work performance, after not working in my trade for 3 years, from zero to 60 in 3 weeks. Luckily, has nothing to do with totally incredible and unbelievable stamina, brain included. Would that I had anything even remotely approaching this 5 years ago, but hey, I don't attribute it to wishful thinking.
I've looked at my results "pragmatically" and feel really REALLY smart for making the decision to fix my jacked up veins, see? Pragmatic goes both ways, plus I get the benefit of hindsight. It's 20/20 and crystal clear, best decision I EVER made.
Enjoy your science, in 5-10 years or so, you can go ahead and make a pragmatic decision and end up in the same spot, sounds like a wash as they say...
Your science won't even agree on what MS is in the first place, so why not start there and work your way forward? CCSVI is just junk science for the non-pragmatic wishful thinking dolts anyways!
I love being a dolt...
You seem intent on considering anyone who needs to see actual proof before believing (skeptical people) as the enemy and someone to skirmish with rather than just accepting that everyone isn't as easy to convince as you are.
For somewhere around the thousandth time, I'm not "against" the theory of CCSVI, I hope to hell that something so clear cut does eventually prove true, it hasn't yet.
Lyon wrote:It was so interesting hearing that U of M IR (Dr David Williams) explain his reasons for skepticism because they've been among my questions from the beginning ie..... every aspect of the human anatomy and function was created with extra capacity in order to compensate for a good deal of age and wear and the vast majority of "blockages" we hear about regarding CCSVI are minor and it's hard to imagine that, for the most part. those minor blockages would/could offer enough restriction to cause problems regardless of how long they were left.
Lyon wrote:I know that's not something answerable right now but those are among the questions of a skeptic.
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