You guys have both elevated this to an art form.... Such luxuries, would that we all had such luxuries... lol indeed.
Wanna come work 7/12's with me starting next week? That was a *reward* for stellar work performance, after not working in my trade for 3 years, from zero to 60 in 3 weeks. Luckily, has nothing to do with totally incredible and unbelievable stamina, brain included. Would that I had anything even remotely approaching this 5 years ago, but hey, I don't attribute it to wishful thinking.
I've looked at my results "pragmatically" and feel really REALLY smart for making the decision to fix my jacked up veins, see? Pragmatic goes both ways, plus I get the benefit of hindsight. It's 20/20 and crystal clear, best decision I EVER made.
Enjoy your science, in 5-10 years or so, you can go ahead and make a pragmatic decision and end up in the same spot, sounds like a wash as they say...
Your science won't even agree on what MS is in the first place, so why not start there and work your way forward? CCSVI is just junk science for the non-pragmatic wishful thinking dolts anyways!
I love being a dolt...
Now there is the crux of the communication problem. You know, or at least think you know what you know, but are convinced that everyone who doesn't take it only at your word is an idiot, despite the fact that I know darned well you're smart enough to realize that science just can't and shouldn't involve nothing more than word of mouth.
You seem intent on considering anyone who needs to see actual proof before believing (skeptical people) as the enemy and someone to skirmish with rather than just accepting that everyone isn't as easy to convince as you are.
For somewhere around the thousandth time, I'm not "against" the theory of CCSVI, I hope to hell that something so clear cut does eventually prove true, it hasn't yet.
And you sir, seem to be convinced beyond a doubt, that anyone who hasn't waited for the science books to be revised, is supremely insane for such undertakings.
I don't care if you are skeptical about the theory, but what in the name of all that is sacred does that have to do with anyone's personal experience? Talk about apples and oranges dude, you missed the bus, this isn't a science site, it's a "people with ms site" to discuss stuff, nothing more, nothing less, so stop making it into something it is not, it's not a scientific round table either. You wont see a "This Is MS" publication, as such, this is just talk, nothing more, nothing less.
So all the science stuff is great, and skepticism of any and all science based stuff and/or lack thereof, but it hasn't a god blessed thing to do with the individuals, and that is where you crossed the line a long time ago, attempting to commingle the two, while accusing others of doing the same by using their results as some kind of scientific proof.
It doesn't give you license to outright call everyone who has ever been treated prior to whatever scientific proof YOU deem as necessary, as non-pragmatic, so get over yourself already.
RRMS Dx'd 2007, first episode 2004. Bilateral stent placement, 3 on left, 1 stent on right, at Stanford August 2009. Watch my operation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwc6QlLVtko
, Virtually symptom free since, no relap