Suspicions of bias on both sides of the MS divide

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Postby gainsbourg » Fri May 13, 2011 1:48 pm

... reported blocked veins in barely half of the latest MS patients he has studied, as well as almost one-quarter of his healthy test subjects

This says it all to me. This is the second study that had this kind of finding. Another one found 22%. As I pointed out years ago, people with blocked cerebral veins in their head are more common than people who are left handed. if these blocked veins are the primary cause of MS - why is MS such a rare illness? Only 0.001% of the world's population has MS, yet 25% of the world's poulation have blocked cerebral veins.

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Postby Cece » Fri May 13, 2011 2:00 pm

There is much disagreement in the different studies on the percent of CCSVI in MS patients vs healthy patients. Also disagreement on what imaging is best for finding CCSVI.

Research In Progress. :)

Dr. Dake's explanation was that CCSVI may be a promoter of MS.
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Postby Trish317 » Fri May 13, 2011 2:28 pm

1eye wrote:Oh. I thought you were saying the statement about doctors being quiet about the science was unfair. Certainly doctors outside this country have been vocal, and some inside. But none inside are allowed to speak from experience.

I think that was an unfair statement, as well, 1eye. But, the other statement struck me from a personal standpoint. I feel very strongly about the members here, and I'm very grateful to them for everything I've learned and continue to learn.
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Postby jimmylegs » Fri May 13, 2011 3:54 pm

is this all we really have to do with our time? i think this argument is played out long since.
odd sx? no dx? check w/ dietitian
99% don't meet these. meds/lifestyle can affect levels
status can be low in ms & other cond'ns
'but my results are normal'. typical panels don't test all
deficits occur in 'normal' range
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