1eye wrote:I can imagine. The dirty tricks played in the peer-reviewed press seem to be a common MO for those who have been labeled the "Lords of Science". However, after a few hundred years of posterity, facts have a tendency to find their way to the surface, in spite of the efforts of some few to obscure them..The peer-reviewed press was created and refined a few hundred years ago, by people who had no interest in such malarkey, and it will survive
the internet has made it easy for "experts" to convince people they know what they are talking about while really they are spreading a bunch of, well.....malarkey.
jgalt2009 wrote:Scorpion, I think you are confusing science with marketing. Marketing has always had the goal of convincing the public of the value of something, whether that value was real or not. The only thing that the internet has "done to science" is to provide the end user with access to unlimited intellectual resources. The end user, now as before, still has to filter out what is real versus what is marketing.
Applying the above to the film, there is no question that the film was a marketing tool, not a science dissertation. However, marketing is not reserved only for bad or deceitful products. Unless they are committing fraud on a grand (and indefensible) scale, I suspect that cancer patients everywhere would be very encouraged with the statistically significant success of the product. And as David1949 pointed out in his original post, the antagonism from the general medical community seems more than vaguely familiar to that of the response to CCSVI from the same community.
scorpion wrote:I am curious what you consider the Direct MS site that "advertises" Embry's diet. Is it marketing or science?
jgalt2009 wrote:Furthermore, I do not see a conflict in marketing good science. As a hard-core capitalist (note my username), I WANT people to make money by marketing good science. Greed has such ugly connotations, but I believe that greed (defined HERE as a desire to become more wealthy through MORAL means) is a great motivator in furthering science. Immoral greed is, of course, despicable.
And I promise that will be my last pseudo-political statement EVER on this website. We are all here because we are all in this together.
Dr. Embry gives all of the Best Bet Diet info online for free. No books, CDs, no income. His booklets are free, downloadable pdfs. His videos on online for free. He makes his living as a geologist, and takes no money from Direct-MS.
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