Restenosis and Nutrition

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Restenosis and Nutrition

Postby carollevin » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:25 am

I was just watching a PBS special of Dr. Joel Fuhrman discussing nutrition for health, and he happened to mention that heart disease patients often "restenose" (the word he used) after angioplasty because they continue eating unhealthy (i.e., the Standard American Diet [SAD] diet).....and how when heart patients make major change to their nutritional lifestyle they don't restenose and their heart disease is cured.

Anyway watching his knowledgeable and passionate special got me wondering if restenosis in CCSVI treatment may be affected at least to some extent by nutrition. I know that the ccsvi.org site has a recommended endothethial (sp?) diet and also I have heard stories of people reversing MS with raw vegan diets such as the Hallelujah Acres diet.

I have since getting MS been working with diet/nutrition, though admitedly I could do a much better job than I do.....but anyway I thought this might be an interesting topic to discuss or consider--How nutritional choices may prevent or halt restensosis in patients who have been treated for CCSVI.
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Postby Cece » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:29 am

My assumption is that this was talking about plaque build-up in heart patients, which were treated by angioplasty, and that the patients then get more plaque build-up because of the high fat diets. The stenosis in CCSVI is not due to plaque build-up so this would not be directly relevant. However I agree that a healthy diet is important, along with exercise (which contributes shear stress to the endothelium which is healthy for it)!
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Postby 1eye » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:35 pm

Plus, knowing as we do that the overly-deoxygenated venous blood draining too slowly from parts of the brain, and mixing with refluxed venous blood which itself may have gone stale, is possibly full of bad oxidization products and other things like dead oligodendrocytes and myelin cells, dead astrocytes, dead neurons, macrophages, T and B cells, inflammatory blood chemistry and loose iron. Eating a healthy diet is the least you can do to try to cope with this kind of situation. Anti-oxidants help.
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Postby Cece » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:38 pm

Frightening stuff, 1eye.
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Postby jimmylegs » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:30 pm

i'm posting with signature links below re ms nutrition (ie www.thisisms.com/ftopict-2489.html)

many nutrients seen to be low in ms patients, are important for vascular health.

"Galvanising forces in vascular health and disease: is dietary zinc protective? "

"Magnesium and vascular tone and reactivity"

"The Vitamin D Epidemic and its Health Consequences..There is mounting scientific evidence that implicates vitamin D deficiency with an increased risk of type I diabetes, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, hypertension, cardiovascular heart disease, and many common deadly cancers."

"C-reactive protein, dietary n-3 fatty acids, and the extent of coronary artery disease"

"Importance of both folic acid and vitamin B12 in reduction of risk of vascular disease"
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Postby carollevin » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:17 pm

Since there was a recent article on many of the CCSVI boards about oxidative stress being a trigger/factor to MS, I think that it also makes sense that diet could potentially enhance the CCSVI results and halt or slow restenosis. I know the angioplasty for the heart is a different situation, but still I just feel the power of nutrition has to play a role, just as smoking and perhaps other things that constrict veins (maybe caffeine?) could either enhance or impair the CCSVI treatment results. Admitedly I am not an expert in this, but it just makes sense to me that somehow nutrition and CCSVI could go together. I know there are some CCSVI treatment patients who are taking certain supplements to reduce the risk of restensosis--I believe I have read things such as milk thistle (silymarins) and Rice Bran IP6 and a few other things would help the iron from sticking in the brain. I believe there was an artifcle in New Pathways about what supplements may be helpful following CCSVI, but I don't have the article.
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Postby jimmylegs » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:07 pm

also, i have posted extensively on the links between zinc deficiency, and iron dysregulation and subsequent deposition.
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Postby cheerleader » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:33 am

carollevin wrote:Since there was a recent article on many of the CCSVI boards about oxidative stress being a trigger/factor to MS, I think that it also makes sense that diet could potentially enhance the CCSVI results and halt or slow restenosis. I know the angioplasty for the heart is a different situation, but still I just feel the power of nutrition has to play a role, just as smoking and perhaps other things that constrict veins (maybe caffeine?) could either enhance or impair the CCSVI treatment results. Admitedly I am not an expert in this, but it just makes sense to me that somehow nutrition and CCSVI could go together. I know there are some CCSVI treatment patients who are taking certain supplements to reduce the risk of restensosis--I believe I have read things such as milk thistle (silymarins) and Rice Bran IP6 and a few other things would help the iron from sticking in the brain. I believe there was an artifcle in New Pathways about what supplements may be helpful following CCSVI, but I don't have the article.


Hi Carol--
Here's the protocol I put together with research from Dr. John Cooke at Stanford--the Endothelial Health program, especailly important for CCSVI (before and after) It includes diet, exercise, supplements and things to avoid. Based on research into nitric oxide and the blood vessels.
http://www.ccsvi.org/index.php/helping- ... ial-health
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