cinnamon, a CCSVI super-spice?

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cinnamon, a CCSVI super-spice?

Postby Cece » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:25 am

www.foodproductdesign.com/news/2011/06/ ... ssion.aspx

Cinnamon helps moderate blood glucose levels, which seems of benefit in CCSVI when the brain may be deprived of glucose and oxygen at times. Now here is another reason to add cinnamon to the diet.

A Rush University Medical Center neurological scientist has been awarded a 2-year $750,000 NIH grant to study whether at cinnamon may stop the progression of multiple sclerosis (MS).
cinnamon has an anti-inflammatory property to counteract and inhibit the glial activation that causes brain cell death.
A 2010 study conducted by scientist at the Agricultural Research Service (ARS) found cinnamon extract might prevent brain cells from swelling after traumatic brain injury and stroke.
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Postby Blaze » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:33 am

Fascinating. Thanks Cece. I think I'll start sprinkling cinnamon in my green tea.

By the way, Cece, how did your Kick The Can Plan work out? Hope you've ditched the diet Coke by now.

Just drink cinnamon water instead!
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Postby Cece » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:52 am

With a single small exception (it was a half-size can), I've been Diet Coke free since that discussion in March.

I remember twice asking my doctor about drinking so much Diet Coke when how I should've explained it was that I was feeling very fatigued. Pre-diagnosis, of course.

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Postby Blaze » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:11 pm

Cece wrote:With a single small exception (it was a half-size can), I've been Diet Coke free since that discussion in March.

:)


Great news Cece! How are you are feeling since Kicking The Can?

Here's another link to info about the study on cinnamon and MS.

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/resear ... tment.html

The author of this article is also the author of No More Secs! Living, Loving and Laughing Despite Multiple Sclerosis. Sounds like our kind of person!
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Postby PointsNorth » Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:38 pm

As I am a big black tea drinker, I will try making chai with a good helping of cinamon.

http://www.chai-tea.org/whatisit.html
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Postby David1949 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:13 pm

I used to put cinnamon and honey in my tea. Didn't do anything for the MS.
I wonder if I can get $750,000 for that info.
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Postby Cece » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:29 pm

lol, David, I wish!
The thing with MS is, who knows? When I took copaxone, I didn't know if I was better than I would've been or if I was on the same course that I would've been. MS gets worse, it is its nature....

In several Asian countries, cinnamon is more common in the diet and MS is uncommon. It might be unrelated but I am building a case here. :)
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Postby Johnson » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:27 pm

Cece wrote:
In several Asian countries, cinnamon is more common in the diet and MS is uncommon. It might be unrelated but I am building a case here. :)


It is probably a whole galaxy of differences - anatomy, diet in its entirety and complexity, prevalence in reporting disease, etc.

Could be congee, or the fact that eveything is upside down on the other side of the Earth.
My name is not really Johnson. MSed up since 1993
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Postby MrSuccess » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:37 pm

speaking of Asian country's ...... I read with great interest recently , of an ancient Chinese medication [ herb ] prescribed for -what ? - a thousand years ...... to treat malaria. And guess what ?

Modern medicine found out it's property's worked on malaria..... as it was similar to what modern medicine contained.

Please don't ask me for all the details .... I've long forgotten them.

Regardless ..... do you think this " cure " would be passed on and down for so long ...... if it did not work ?

The story I read seemed legit ' .

Who am I to call " bullshit " on a 1000 year old remedy.

Hey ......... you never know ...........



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Postby Cece » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:49 pm

Johnson wrote:Could be congee, or the fact that eveything is upside down on the other side of the Earth.

That would definitely affect the cerebrospinal drainage!
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Re: cinnamon, a CCSVI super-spice?

Postby NHE » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:13 am

Since about the beginning of last December, I have been consuming organic cinnamon for other reasons. For the first two months, it was 0.5 tsp (2.5 mL) per day. In February, I bumped that up to 1 tsp (5.0 mL) per day. I mix it with some plain yogurt. This is about the maximum recommended dosage for cassia cinnamon as it contains coumarin which can be hard on the liver. As far as my MS symptoms are concerned, I have not noticed any difference. However, my experience is just a single data point, n=1, so no conclusions can be drawn from it. For further information, Ceylon cinnamon, also known as true cinnamon, does not contain coumarin. However, it's about 4x more expensive than cassia cinnamon.


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Postby hwebb » Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:28 am

Could be congee, or the fact that eveything is upside down on the other side of the Earth.



Definitely not the Southern Hemisphere causing no MS. Us Aussies and Kiwis are in the Southern Hemisphere too ...and have a high rate of MS (get's higher the further south you go, as less sun down south)
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Postby Blaze » Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:15 am

MrSuccess wrote:speaking of Asian country's ...... I read with great interest recently , of an ancient Chinese medication [ herb ] prescribed for -what ? - a thousand years ...... to treat malaria. And guess what ?

Modern medicine found out it's property's worked on malaria..... as it was similar to what modern medicine contained.

Please don't ask me for all the details .... I've long forgotten them.

Regardless ..... do you think this " cure " would be passed on and down for so long ...... if it did not work ?

The story I read seemed legit ' .

Who am I to call " bullshit " on a 1000 year old remedy.

Hey ......... you never know ...........



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You're right Mr. S. According to this, the herb is ging hao. Naturally, the drug companies have jumped on the bandwagon and deveveloped a a"marketable extract" Yet, there is no evidence this works any better than cooking the whole herb. Sound familiar?


Scientists have discovered that the Chinese herb, qing hao (artemesia), long used for malarial disorders, works far better than currently used anti-malarials. To better profit from this herb, drug companies have produced a marketable extract called artemisinin.

Yet there is no evidence that artemisinin works any better than does cooking the whole herb or using a simple water extract of the herb.


Here's a link to more info: http://www.drshen.com/herbsformalaria.htm\

Hmm, I wonder how long it will be before pharmas are developing a cinnamon drug at a cost of $20,000 for MS.
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Re: cinnamon, a CCSVI super-spice?

Postby David1949 » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:37 pm

NHE wrote:Since about the beginning of last December, I have been consuming organic cinnamon for other reasons. For the first two months, it was 0.5 tsp (2.5 mL) per day. In February, I bumped that up to 1 tsp (5.0 mL) per day. I mix it with some plain yogurt. This is about the maximum recommended dosage for cassia cinnamon as it contains coumarin which can be hard on the liver. As far as my MS symptoms are concerned, I have not noticed any difference. However, my experience is just a single data point, n=1, so no conclusions can be drawn from it. For further information, Ceylon cinnamon, also known as true cinnamon, does not contain coumarin. However, it's about 4x more expensive than cassia cinnamon.


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If you add my experience above then it's n=2. And still no positive result. Now what are the odds that n=3 will be the lucky charm and it will start working?

The thing is that most of us have a kitchen cabinet full of vitamins, herbs, supplements etc that we've tried out to thwart MS, all to no avail. I don't mind using myself as a guinea pig to try out these things but I don't think we should hype them unless there is at least some data that the supports the claim.
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Postby MrSuccess » Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:10 pm

just throwing this out there ..... this north hemishere v. south hemisphere thing always intrigues Mr.Success.

Here we go :

Is it possible MS .... is in any way .... connected to dental fillings ? :idea:

With prosperity ...... comes things like good dental care ..... where there is deemed to be low-absent MS diagnosis ....... is there a lack of prosperity ..... and thus ..... No dental care ?

I have no idea ........ just wondering out loud .



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