This Is MS Multiple Sclerosis Community: Knowledge & Support

I am glad that you are coming round to accepting the fact that teeth may, just may have something to do with MS.

My patients will confirm to you that the treatment is not as straightforward as wearing a 'munchy' and hence I can neither condone nor condemn any treatment. There are many dentists all round the world who have a very good idea and can definitely help many patients.

I cannot supply any names as I do not want to be held responsible for any adverse outcomes no matter how remote the chance. I also do not personally know any particular practitioner who I could recommend.
In general if you enquire from AAFO in the USA people who they recommend may have a better idea at providing TMD treatment but again I take no responsibility for any such recomendations.

I'll expand Amir's comments about his treatment.

I've never before come across a situation where an imperceptible amount of movement can create so much reaction in a human body.

When a new patient starts treatment with Amir it's not a case of slapping in a standard starting brace and off we go.

There have been occasions that Emma has had a new appliance or an adjustment (by little more than the thickness of a sheet of paper) that have lead to us returning to see Amir within 48 hours or so. Fortunately we only live 4 minutes drive away.

This doesn't mean Amir did something wrong, it means he's fine tuning what needs to happen in a particular patient. Often a small adjustments gets us immediately back on track.

From the patients perspective it also reinforces how well they are doing when the improvements are eradicated overnight with the tiniest adjustment, then corrected again with an equally small adjustment.

I can't see how a one size fits all appliance could produce the same results that Amir does.

I also have to say it's nice to see Amir being a little, how can say this? Restrained in his answer?

I can image what he would like to have written about the Aqualizer. It must have taken quite some restraint Amir - well done you!

And no-one suggested it.

You didn't, but people visiting this thread and looking at some of the links may actually arrive at that conclusion.

It was worth pointing it out for clarity.

The above was posted on: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:39 am

Keeping my promise "towards the end of 2012"
Please read this thread especially see the graphs and recovery from most symptoms and the restoration of walking ability in a number of patients:

http://themsforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6

dr. amir, looking forward to your promise. thanks again for being here.



can't get the link to open-anybody else?

i cant get to the link either

The "MS" patient suffers from an awful disease that is indeed like an elephant -- the elephant in the room that nobody talks about. I want to talk about it. The elephant is division. From initial diagnosis the doctor has an important decision to make: one that will determine the patient's future indefinitely - what kind of "MS" do we have here?

I was asked at my first neurology appointment, when I asked for a treatment I had read of (I was referring to interferon) the guy said "What makes you think you are relapsing-remitting?"

I didn't know how important my answer was.

Divide and conquer. PP, RR, SP, CP, etc. etc. Gets insurance companies, drug "vendors", and many doctors off the hook. Nobody has to do any more investigating or learning about anatomy, just leave everything to Big Pharma (the sister of Big Brother); a pen and a prescription pad is all you need. After a "case" becomes "SP", medicine stops working, so get them into the warehouse as soon as possible after that. Take away the driving license and the rest is easy, a waiting game, really.

An unfortunate coincidence that this usually happens about the same time people start to get impatient with having to come up with $30K-$50K a year for those "meds". For some reason, they don't like to keep injecting them into themselves, and swallowing them.

If doctors can just stonewall, stay the course, soon unruly troublemakers get passed on to warehousing, and they get all-new patients.

Part of what keeps us "patients" in line is the tendency for saviours to appear who have a single answer for everyone's problems. The thing that all of the saviours, allopaths and otherwise, is each other: there will never, ever, be agreement among them. They are all in agreement on that. Nor will there ever be any solidarity among the afflicted. They have too many cognitive problems.

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"Try - Just A Little Bit Harder" - Janis Joplin
CCSVI procedure Albany Aug 2010
'_MS' is over - if you want it
Patients sans/without patience

I've emailed Amir and ask him to get his forum people to check the security settings to see if they are a little too tight.

I hear your frustration, I live with someone eaten up with the same frustration.

On a bad day it can be all consuming. Just feel content you chose not to go the drug route.

Why just 'MS'?
Could this elephant not be something else which does not need these divisons?



It need not be so!
Big pharma brain washing is almost total. I cannot even put a different idea past many affected by the so called 'MS'



It is a gross underestimate:
$30bn: the combined revenue from the top 12 biological products in the United States in 2010
453%: expected increase in US sales of the above top 12 from 2010 to 2014. It will bring annual revenues to $166bn, comprising about 30% of the branded prescription drug market
$200 000: average cost of treating a patient for a year with one of the top nine biologicals in the US
$409 500: average cost per year for the average patient on the most expensive drug in the world, eculizumab, used to treat paroxysmal nocturnal haemoglobinuria
$2: average raw material cost per gram of product produced

My contention is:
Should you have been there in the first place?


An interesting post on the MS Society forum went like this:

"There are three big problems for the constituency that believe to their very core in the scientific method:

A. You don't know what causes MS
B. You haven't found any methods for rolling it back
C. You haven't found a cure."

And in a later post he said:

"I believe the scientific method will 'one day' make a breakthrough.
Until then, I (for one) will be open for listening to maverick outsiders, garden shed boffins and spurious snake oil salesmen.
I mean, why wouldn't you?
Being open to stunning developments is one of life's great joys."

A diabetic I know who is somewhere between 70 and 80 years old told me the other day: "Don't do it. Why poke yourself in the finger with a razor one to several times a day? You just get on their treadmill, and it can only have a bad end. So I don't do it. Ever." He looks pretty healthy to me, but my standards are low.

While I agree that sometimes what you don't know can't hurt you so much, for some things there are no good alternatives, and sometimes it can hurt you. Hard to know ahead of time. I tend to disbelieve people who have no good news.

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"Try - Just A Little Bit Harder" - Janis Joplin
CCSVI procedure Albany Aug 2010
'_MS' is over - if you want it
Patients sans/without patience