are the neurologists thawing??

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are the neurologists thawing??

Postby Cece » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:21 am

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I read the last line on this slide, which comes from a presentation by Dr. Arslan at Rush University in Chicago that is up on ccsvi.org.

"Her neurologist now routinely refers select patients."

This must be a neurologist in Chicago? I can't think what the neurologist's selection process would be considering that there is no data yet to say who will respond to CCSVI treatment, but it is great news. Neurologists are seeing their patients benefit from CCSVI treatment. This cannot be the only neurologist who has now come so far as to refer patients to a CCSVI IR. It's a sign of progress, however slow.
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Re: are the neurologists thawing??

Postby tiltawhirl » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:25 pm

Hmmmm...

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Re: are the neurologists thawing??

Postby MrSuccess » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:58 pm

I think it's more a case of being cautious of something new. I think it is now - four - years out , that CCSVI and the possible link to MS ..... is out front and leading the pack.

We must remember this : CCSVI was apparently NOT studied or accepted as having anything to do with MS ..... to the Neurologists in training [ or practicing ] up until our beloved Dr.Zamboni presented his CCSVI theory to the medical world in 2008.

As mentioned , CCSVI has evolved from pwMS reporting anecdotes of improvements ..... to now having the medical profession sharing their research results.

And as with Dr.Zamboni's ORIGINAL65 pwMS ...... the reported results are stunning .



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Re: are the neurologists thawing??

Postby Cece » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:21 pm

love the picture, tilt

MrSuccess, yes, the reported results are stunning. It would be beneficial to the research to get neurologist involvement. And Dr. Dake has a neurologist onboard with his study now, if reports are to be believed, and it was CCSVI Alliance that helped bring Dr. Dake and the neurologist together at an event. So, that also seems like thawing. I don't know how Dr. Zamboni found his Dr. Salvi, but then that was before any controversy!
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Re: are the neurologists thawing??

Postby MrSuccess » Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:52 am

Cece - I think it was you that first observed that CCSVI reports have now crossed over from pwMS giving anecdotal reports ...... to what is now trickling in ..... medical professionals offering observational reports ..... that give CCSVI substance and traction.

After FOUR years of CCSVI ...... it appears [ to MrSuccess ] that the Rule of Thirds is best described when it comes to CCSVI .

One third report strong improvement of MS symptoms for the BETTER.

One third report mild improvements in their MS symptoms.

One third report no improvements at all. To this .....MrSuccess would like to add the word " YET" . As CCSVI knowledge advances ..... I expect this category to reduce in size.

As for Neurologist's ...... CCSVI is now front and centre .... for them to accept ..... or reject . They had it easy at first .... dismissing the idea brought to them by their patients.

But now ...... they have to do battle with people every bit as educated as they are. :twisted: And the results they publish.



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Re: are the neurologists thawing??

Postby msscooter » Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:38 pm

Agree with you MrSuccess. I am finding more neurologists who are seeing patients improve and are impressed. Want more...
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Re: are the neurologists thawing??

Postby David1949 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:33 pm

I'm for keeping them on ice. :-)
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Re: are the neurologists thawing??

Postby tiltawhirl » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:37 pm

David1949 wrote:I'm for keeping them on ice. :-)


10/10 David. Good thing new keyboards are cheap.

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Re: are the neurologists thawing??

Postby msscooter » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:15 am

My family doc says of neurologists, "we don't need 'em, that is why they are freaking out over this whole CCSVI thing"
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Re: are the neurologists thawing??

Postby erinc14 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:05 am

msscooter wrote:My family doc says of neurologists, "we don't need 'em, that is why they are freaking out over this whole CCSVI thing"
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