Anyone seen this?

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Anyone seen this?

Postby 1eye » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:17 am

I suppose when they tell you Zamboni's results have never been duplicated, they mean exact duplication with matched patients and doctors/neorologists, in a Mayonnaise Jar on Funk & Wagnall's Porch***...

*** - Carnac the Magnificent (for those born after the 1980's see )
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Source: Phlebology

Disability caused by multiple sclerosis is associated with the number of extra cranial venous stenoses: possible improvement by venous angioplasty. Results of a prospective study

Denislic M, Milosevic Z, Zorc M, Ravnik IZ, Mendiz O; Phlebology (Nov 2012)

OBJECTIVE: Chronic cerebrospinal venous insufficiency (CCSVI) was recently described in patients with multiple sclerosis (MS). The hypothesis of the vascular aetiology provides a new approach in the investigation and treatment of MS. METHODS: Our open-label study included 94 MS patients who fulfilled ultrasound sonographic criteria required for CCSVI. The internal jugular and/or azygous veins by a catheter venography were dilated. RESULTS: In 34.8% of the patients unilateral, in 65.2% bilateral venous abnormalities and in 2.1% no luminal obstructions were demonstrated. The patient group with the higher disability score had a significantly higher number of venous lesions (P<0.005). Significant improvement of clinical disability in relapsing-remitting patients was (P<0.001) achieved. In our study no stents were used. Re-stenosis occurred in 21.7% of the patients. CONCLUSION: The number of venous narrowings is higher in more disabled patients. A significant improvement in clinical disability in the relapsing-remitting group was observed.


Maybe we've seen this before, but I think a lot of "MS" specialists haven't.
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Re: Anyone seen this?

Postby blossom » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:28 pm

1eye said---Maybe we've seen this before, but I think a lot of "MS" specialists haven't.

yes, we've seen this before and there propably are some "ms specialists" that haven't seen it. but, from my experience the ones i've come across know or have heard of this--but, they "choose" not only to put the blinders on but also turn a deaf ear. it's rocking the boat and they are used to smooth sailing and smooth selling.
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