Cheer's excellent adventure
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Wow! Dr Cheer! This is amazing. Every time I log into ThisisMS I am overwhelmed by the CCSVI site which has EXPLODED! And now you are in Bologna. I'd love to be there too. How fascinating. I hope you hear or meet Dr Claude Franscheschi who responded to my accentless French email which I thought very kind. Enjoy. Holly would be very excited.
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Amazing preliminary session...got to meet all the presenting and some attending docs (about 25 tonight), dear Dr. Zamboni, Schelling, Simka and Dr. Dake in attendance. I was the only civilian. There was a review of materials to be presented tomorrow, which is really exciting. Jacobs is showing a 100% correlation with Zamboni's findings, and is planning on training other centers to diagnose and treat CCSVi. Oh, yeah.
The biggest surprise was meeting neuros that are interested in this paradigm. We will be 150 in attendance tomorrow. I had a lovely dinner and wine, so I'm going to call it a night. I have 8 pages of notes (taken before wine) to transcribe...relating the history of Dr. Z's journey into exploring the vascular connection, as well as presentations by other doctors in attendance. I will transcribe in totality on the plane home- barring any unforeseen Norwegian incidents. One tidbit....Dr. Z worked in Sardinia, Italy (high MS prevalence) in the 80's and studied congenital venous malformation in children. All those he studied had occluded jugulars and 90% of those children have MS 20 years later. We can wait around another 20 years....or not.
Lots to tell, but I am whipped and want to be rested for tomorrow. This is an amazing opportunity, and I cannot wait to share with you all in entirety.
a domani,
cheer
The biggest surprise was meeting neuros that are interested in this paradigm. We will be 150 in attendance tomorrow. I had a lovely dinner and wine, so I'm going to call it a night. I have 8 pages of notes (taken before wine) to transcribe...relating the history of Dr. Z's journey into exploring the vascular connection, as well as presentations by other doctors in attendance. I will transcribe in totality on the plane home- barring any unforeseen Norwegian incidents. One tidbit....Dr. Z worked in Sardinia, Italy (high MS prevalence) in the 80's and studied congenital venous malformation in children. All those he studied had occluded jugulars and 90% of those children have MS 20 years later. We can wait around another 20 years....or not.
Lots to tell, but I am whipped and want to be rested for tomorrow. This is an amazing opportunity, and I cannot wait to share with you all in entirety.
a domani,
cheer
Husband dx RRMS 3/07
dx dual jugular vein stenosis (CCSVI) 4/09
http://ccsviinms.blogspot.com
dx dual jugular vein stenosis (CCSVI) 4/09
http://ccsviinms.blogspot.com
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Cheer, how exciting! Sometimes it just all seems so incredible. So glad you are there and reporting back, and glad you took the time to enjoy Bologna. Waiting enthusiastically for your transcription
diagnosed RR in spring '04
1 stent placed in left jugular vein 7/15/09
on and off Copaxone
allergric to interferons and Tysabri
1 stent placed in left jugular vein 7/15/09
on and off Copaxone
allergric to interferons and Tysabri
Considering the size of that cohort, this is a done deal.Jacobs 100%
This was always, from the December paper, fantastically robust research. the 100% concordance from the beginning was the clue that they had found something pathognomic--in other words unique to MS. In contrast to people insisting that 100% was "suspicious" it was the key to the fact the research was BETTER than anything else we've been offered.
The fact that an American institution is also finding 100% concordance in a 1000 person cohort should give anyone with a skeptical point of view comfort. This is not going away and it is not a debate on hypothesis, it is a newly uncovered physical anomaly which can be proven in MS patients that others do not have.
What is so interesting about that is that the Sardinian population has been studied for decades because of their high MS incidence; their genes, their everything. If kids with this anomaly get MS years later as adults then this is the cause....because they didn't have MS when they were kids.One tidbit....Dr. Z worked in Sardinia, Italy (high MS prevalence) in the 80's and studied congenital venous malformation in children. All those he studied had occluded jugulars and 90% of those children have MS 20 years later. We can wait around another 20 years....or not.
Wobbly told me that they had data on kids....
Someone could argue that perhaps the gene that causes MS also causes stenosis and they are unrelated but that would be a nonsense argument--fantastically unlikely.
What wonderful wonderful news.............
I'm not offering medical advice, I am just a patient too! Talk to your doctor about what is best for you...
http://www.thisisms.com/ftopic-7318-0.html This is my regimen thread
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http://www.thisisms.com/ftopic-7318-0.html This is my regimen thread
http://www.ccsvibook.com Read my book published by McFarland Health topics
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RRMS Dx'd 2007, first episode 2004. Bilateral stent placement, 3 on left, 1 stent on right, at Stanford August 2009. Watch my operation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwc6QlLVtko, Virtually symptom free since, no relap
That's just the long term evidence that helps fill the picture.
As I've said all my reasonable doubts went a while ago, and the new woman sitting next to me is proof enough of that!
I can't wait to read the full report Cheer!!
Again explains clusters of MS, congenital either genetic or tetragenic.
Keep the good news rolling!
As I've said all my reasonable doubts went a while ago, and the new woman sitting next to me is proof enough of that!
I can't wait to read the full report Cheer!!
Again explains clusters of MS, congenital either genetic or tetragenic.
Keep the good news rolling!
With all due respect, you are putting the cart way in front of the horse, unless you have information on the Jacobs study that you would like to share.mrhodes40 wrote:Considering the size of that cohort, this is a done deal.Jacobs 100%
This was always, from the December paper, fantastically robust research. the 100% concordance from the beginning was the clue that they had found something pathognomic--in other words unique to MS. In contrast to people insisting that 100% was "suspicious" it was the key to the fact the research was BETTER than anything else we've been offered.
The fact that an American institution is also finding 100% concordance in a 1000 person cohort should give anyone with a skeptical point of view comfort. This is not going away and it is not a debate on hypothesis, it is a newly uncovered physical anomaly which can be proven in MS patients that others do not have.
When I called the imaging center in Buffalo, I couldn't even get them to admit an imaging study on CCSVI was ongoing. So how do you know they have tested 1000 people already? And what exactly is 100% agreement with Zamboni's studies? Based on anecdotal reports from people going to Stanford, even Dr. Dake doesn't see or agree with the pattern seen by Zamboni.
I really hope that JNI has found results that support CCSVI as the cause of MS. And I hope they present this at the Bologna conference. But, to say at this point, this is a done deal is really stretching things.