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Postby frodo » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:13 am

ClaireParry wrote:It does sound really suspect. I wonder if there is a way to use his email addess and have it re-directed elsewhere?

Is anybody else due out there soon to ask him??

He certainly HAS NOT asked for money upfront.

Pepe - thanks, that info is really helpful.

Claire


It is perfectly possible to fake a sender email address. It appears in cleartext in the header of the message code. The best way to confirm that the email is real is to reply asking for confirmation (the reply will go to the sender address even if the mail came from somewhere else).
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Postby ClaireParry » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:07 am

Excellent Frodo, maybe AndrewK can do as you suggest and see what happens??
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Postby Brynn » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:09 pm

I would suggest calling the clinic to confirm these scheduling/cost issues. I can find the number tomorrow or maybe someone else can post it again. Brynn
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Postby Richardk » Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:08 pm

Brynn wrote:I would suggest calling the clinic to confirm these scheduling/cost issues. I can find the number tomorrow or maybe someone else can post it again. Brynn


I spoke by phone with Dr S yesterday, and he confirmed that the email was genuine...he is trying to leave the administration side to others...Marta Cyba is now the Patient Coordinator who is sending the emails...I received another clarification yesterday, part of which stated:

The payment should be performed before arrival (please include your name in the topic of the payment) or upon arrival.


which appears to give us the option of paying when we arrive. One advantage of this new arrangement will be that transportation from the airport, either Katowice or Krakow, to the hotel, as well as transportation to the medical facilities is included, which makes life easier. Five days accommodation at the Park Diament hotel is included;

http://www.hotelediament.pl/strona,h5,main.html

It has been a bolt out of the blue to find my appointment changed from August to less than two weeks hence, may others also have the same good fortune. All the previous trailblazers who have received the treatment from Dr S (especially Erika, unstinting in her support) have given me tremendous info to prepare myself...and I will keep everyone aware of how things proceed.

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Postby Brynn » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:06 am

Fantastic, Richard! That sounds like they are trying to put a bit of a system in place for those of us coming from quite a long way away! Trust me, I was just as shocked when he emailed me offering my spot last week! It was a far cry from September! I think everyone should get their travel affairs in order and bee ready. The Simka team might find themselves proceeding faster than they had anticipated, too, with the ability to move up more appointments! My CD of my surgery had #51/2010 written on it, so I would guess that maybe they have done 51 patients so far this month as od Jan 21st! :)
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Postby Richardk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:18 am

Brynn wrote:Fantastic, Richard! That sounds like they are trying to put a bit of a system in place for those of us coming from quite a long way away! Trust me, I was just as shocked when he emailed me offering my spot last week! It was a far cry from September! I think everyone should get their travel affairs in order and bee ready. The Simka team might find themselves proceeding faster than they had anticipated, too, with the ability to move up more appointments! My CD of my surgery had #51/2010 written on it, so I would guess that maybe they have done 51 patients so far this month as od Jan 21st! :)


Thanks Brynn...If they have done 51 ops this year, they must be very busy and in need of good organisation..I will ask Dr S what his stats have been so far.... We also are going on Lufthansa, on travel points, and in Business...all I need now is to show my wife how to play Blackjack and she can clean up at the Casino while I get my veins straightened out.

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Postby ClaireParry » Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:37 am

Richardk - if I have missed this somewhere then I apologise - what is the new cost? I'm only going for the diagnostics but if I have a problem with my Vascular Surgeon here I'd like to go back to Poland, thanks.
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Postby Richardk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:27 am

Claire... the attached gives the breakdown....


Katowice, 21 January 2010


Dear Sirs,

We kindly inform you that due to increased costs of medical insurance and costs of clinical researches, we have to change the price of Liberation Treatment (CCSVI) method. New price also includes transportation and part of accommodation costs during your stay in Poland. We have decided to cover non-medical areas with our assistance to increase performance of the Clinic and to shorten the waiting time for the procedure.

Since 25th January 2010 the costs will amount to:
 6 900 euro : angioplasty with stenting – 1 stent (if more than one stent is placed, each additional stent costs 500 euro)
 6 400 euro : angioplasty

The price includes:
 Vascular surgeon/angiologist consultation
 Color Doppler ultrasound examination
 MRI examination
 Endovascular procedure (angioplasty or stenting)
 introductory consultation with the leading doctor
 5-night stay in 4-star hotel (breakfast included)
 Transportation to the examination and procedure facilities (Doppler, MRI, surgery)
 Transportation from/to Pyrzowice (Katowice) or Balice (Kraków) Airport
 EuroMedic personnel assist during your stay
 telephone hot-line assistance

 If for medical reasons angioplasty or stenting cannot be performed the package price amounts to:
 2 700 euro : Full diagnostics with phlebography
1 800 euro : color Doppler ultrasound and MRI examination


Best regards,
Tomasz Ludyga
Director of EuroMedic
Specialist Clinics



I would imagine that if they haven't sent this to you that you're still under the old arrangement...

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