Zamboni´s Public meeting

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Zamboni´s Public meeting

Postby GuRu » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:38 pm

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Postby Ruthless67 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:17 pm

GuRu,

Thanks so much for this information.

This sentence means allot to me.

"Soon there will be confirmation of studies in collaboration with Geneva, that ccsvi is a disease that precedes and follows multiple sclerosis."

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Just wondering if anyone is familiar with body language? I noted in picture 16 how many people have there hands close to or on their faces.
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Postby Terry » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:31 pm

Hands can hide things. When people do not want to hear something, they put hands to ears. When they do not want to look, they cover their eyes. When they want to say something but feel restrained, they put their hands to their mouth. A hand may also cover a rudely open mouth, which may be opened in such as surprise or a yawn.
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Postby Ruthless67 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:39 pm

Thanks Terry,

I counted 12 people in the photo, 11 with hands over or by their mouths, and 1 scratching her ear!

I liked this remark too.

"-Zamboni: collaboration with Buffalo N.Y. is very very important because it is the Institute of Neurology, where 20 years ago interferon was developed, the fact that at this center has sent a technician with twenty years experience in vascular diagnosis in Ferrara to learn, just from Buffalo, says it all ."

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Postby ozarkcanoer » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:02 pm

I got a kick out of the fact that Dr Salvi had Dr Zamboni's name in front of him and Dr Zamboni had Dr Salvi's name !! I wish I knew Italian and had been at this meeting.

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Postby prof8 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:20 pm

Lora, can you read Italian? Maybe you could translate for us--or are you quoting from an English translation already (if so, where is it)? Thanks!
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Postby Ruthless67 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:28 pm

Hi Prof8,

I just used the translate button on my web broser.

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Postby Billmeik » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:53 pm

- l' Onlus Smuovilavita will offer a scholarship for a doctor to place side by side to Zamboni. - " Multipla" stenosis; ; -) because so that it can be spoken about CCSVI you they would have to be at least two stenosis. and they have not never found a single stenosis in combination with the Multiple Sclerosis; explanation given in answer to a question of in charge of angiology of Castelfranco. - This the citation projected on the screen from the Dr Blank to the term of its participation: … Extension all " Not science, but the charity has transformed the world, in some periods; and only least passed men son to the history for science; but all will be able to remain imperituri, symbol dell' eternity of the life, in which the dead women it is not that a stage, a metamorphosis for higher ascenso, if they will be dedicated to the bene." S. Giuseppe Moscati - Smuovilavita announces that they are activated in order to make to leave in Veneto an experimentation parallel. - The President of the Multiple Sclerosis of Bolzano has gi… Tuttoà extension taken to contact with the Prof Zamboni although the neurologi in the public is contrary (gives of crazy to Zamboni the Blank ones) but not only to Bolzano but also in other Italian institutes. In Germany they say that it is a theory that goes continuation. BUT… They have found in private a neuroabilitatore with a private clinic its disposed one to monitorare the patients in clinic who come ricoverati. The Prof Zamboni has sent 3 days ago the parameters in order to make it, therefore time a month or two and leaves. - Zamboni: you keep in mind who all the main intense activities are escapes in 2009 and now we are alone in January 2010: the times which we are assisting are not worrisome, indeed reassuring. The things that Battle has said are reassuring because if we exit monday with something in hand and that he will come absolutely communicated and rendered public, we will be able to begin to work seriously or on the experimentation that on the formation on what it is already acquired. - Dr.sa Blessed of the center of Verona: cause is not convinced of the relationship effect, but IT INVITES BLANK ZAMBONI OFFICIALLY to go to introduce their result all' University of Verona. Blank: " Us saremo". - Zamboni: the collaboration with Buffalo N.Y is a lot a lot important because it is l' neurology institute where 20 years ago it has been developed l' interferone, the fact that own this center has sent a vascular technician with ventennale experience of diagnosis to Ferrara to learn, own from Buffalo says, it long. - Zamboni: some of these occlusions, like the coiled vein or the valve on the contrary, clearly make to understand that or absolutely impossible that are alterations caused from a autoimmunitaria or secondary disease to the multiple sclerosis. The valve on the contrary or the coiled vein is a mechanism that does not have nothing to that to see with… tuttola Extension SM. These are classified like trunculari malformations, than they are developed between the third and fifth month of life, with the formation of goes that it produces a percentage till 2% of errors, therefore the ccsvi. Soon there will be the confirmation of studies in collaboration with Geneva, than ccsvi or a pathology that precedes and it does not follow the multiple sclerosis. - Zamboni: l' surgical participation will be necessary single if after two endovascolari participations they are not obtained turned out.
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Postby Billmeik » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:01 pm

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Postby GuRu » Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:14 am

Here is the you tube link of meeting (part 1) but Italian language :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u55yiYi65ls
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Postby Becia » Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:15 am

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Postby GuRu » Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:23 am

Here is public response to National Post :) with facts not just propaganda!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.facebook.com/notes/ccsvi-in- ... 7753807210
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Postby Brynn » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:53 am

Hi Terri, that's pretty funny! My first thought to your body language question was that they must be a group of neurolologists! :lol: It must be diffficult to try to embrace something that shakes at the core of all you do. Thankfully, over time they won't be able to argue with results! Brynn
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Postby Sharon » Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:33 am

Newspaper article in the Vicenza Chronicle on Zamboni's public meeting.

http://tinyurl.com/yaxx3yz


Yet Zamboni to save not say they have made the discovery of the century nor to have the truth in your pocket, do not promise miracle cures or magic or sell lotions are fed by some Goldfinger pharmaceutical industry. Continue to demonstrate the scientific data in hand, two things. The first: with a special ultrasound can diagnose a deformity, the discovery by Zamboni, the Ccsvi, a narrowing of the extracranial veins, causing poor drainage of the brain, the deposition of iron in brain tissue, and a steady short circuit of neurons.
The second: This obstruction can cause one of the most tragic diseases, multiple sclerosis, which afflicts 58 thousand and 2 million people in Italy and half in the world. Indeed it is found that the presence of Ccsvi increases by 43 times the risk of multiple sclerosis


This is the first time I have read "CCSVI increases by 43 times the risk of multiple sclerosis". Is this new information or did I miss something in the past six months? :oops:

Use Google to translate the article.

Here is the link to a video of the meeting - it is in Italian and unfortunately Google does not translate audio/videos :roll:
http://www.sclerosi.org/video-convegno-CCSVI

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