This Is MS Multiple Sclerosis Community: Knowledge & Support

Hi Everyone,

The past few days my husband has not been able to sleep over night. He says his body is aching all over and that basic pain relief does nothing to help him get comfortable.

The thing that is annoying me is that though he can't sleep over night it seems that from about 6am onwards he is quite capable of sleeping well past mid day.

I feel like a single Mum. I'm sleeping alone and raising my son alone for the most part of the day.

I'm not doubting for a second that he's lying about the pain or something because he's normally a very heavy sleeper and it's very rare for him to not sleep over night.

But I'm worried that this pain means more than just nothing. I want him to go to the Dr to get some sleeping help. Should he be asking more questions??

Is this body ache a sign of anything? Like another attack?? He was diagnosed in November and we're yet to have another attack so we are just sort of sitting here thinking "is this it" with everything that comes our way.

Thanks for any advice you can give.

Boo

possibly needs vit d3 with proportionate calcium, magnesium, and zinc.

_________________
my approach: no meds so far - just balanced whole foods (partial 'paleo', much less outright elimination), science, supplements, & bloodwork
my regimen - www.thisisms.com/ftopict-2489.html
www.whfoods.com, www.nutritiondata.com

Thank you. Is there a scientific reason that this might be the case?

And would a multivitamin do the trick??

I called his MS nurse behind his back (since he's asleep anyway) and she said it might be because he's giving his injections too late at night (about an hour before bed) But this has been going on every night and his injections are only every second night.

I'm forcing him to the Dr's tonight. I think now his body is just all out of whack and unless he get's some sleeping help he's going to have a hard time getting out of this habit.

Thank you once again.

Boo

It sounds like he's on Betaseron, is that correct? If so, then I agree with his nurse's statement. I find that I do much better if I have my interferon shot around noon. I experience less side effects and less fatigue the next day. Though be sure to keep some ibuprofen around to counter the side effects.

I also have chronic neuropathic pain in my foot. It often keeps me from falling asleep for an hour or up to two sometimes. I find that the pain is not as bad if I try to sleep on my side and not on my back. Perhaps there's something that can be done with sleeping position that can help your husband?

NHE

hi boo, lots of scientific reasons out there. have a read of my regimen thread 'orthomolecular biochemistry' for more info.

if we're talking about betaseron, from what i understand it is hard on the liver, and the liver needs all the help it can get in a case of ms.

example:
zinc tends to be low in ms ('normal' yes, healthy no).
low zinc can result in liver issues.
liver can repair with zinc supplementation.
when zinc is replete liver functions better.
with adequate zinc the low uric acid level seen in ms (again, also 'normal' but not healthy) can normalize.
vitamin d3 absorption can improve.

i am speaking from having read a boatload of medical journals, formed hypotheses, and tested them on myself with bloodwork. supplementing so that my zinc level matched 'healthy controls' in research caused my uric acid to normalize (again that means it matches 'healthy controls' in research) and my d3 absorption more than doubled.

_________________
my approach: no meds so far - just balanced whole foods (partial 'paleo', much less outright elimination), science, supplements, & bloodwork
my regimen - www.thisisms.com/ftopict-2489.html
www.whfoods.com, www.nutritiondata.com

oh yes, and no - a multi will not do the trick. multis are for healthy people. all the same, a good starting point. but likely that and more is needed, for example:

4000 IU vit d3 per day just for maintenance. more if an increase in current level is required.

1200 mg calcium.

at least 600 mg magnesium glycinate.

50mg zinc per day for a month then back off to every other day.

and just because it's ms, also a b50 complex once per day.

it's much better if you also get bloodwork to figure out current levels. then you can tailor supplements better and monitor how your regimen is working using additional bloodwork periodically.

hth,
jimmylegs

_________________
my approach: no meds so far - just balanced whole foods (partial 'paleo', much less outright elimination), science, supplements, & bloodwork
my regimen - www.thisisms.com/ftopict-2489.html
www.whfoods.com, www.nutritiondata.com