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Postby Artifishual » Wed May 07, 2008 9:31 am

Titties and beer, thank God I ain't queer. Famous word of Rodney Carrington. He comes to Beaumont all the time.
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed May 07, 2008 9:37 am

ya loobie i know. i tossed around the idea of drawing some more ansi graphics but thought perhaps not ;D

yayyyy arti i tell ya, that stuff works for everything!?!! yep smells definitely change when your chemistry does. maybe also, if it's hanging around inside ya for less time, it smells... um... newer?

ur not lookin in the right place i guess arti 8)

that's not an etch-a-sketch... homeskillet
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Postby Artifishual » Wed May 07, 2008 9:58 am

Thanks Homeskillet we'll have to see how it goes but its looking pretty good now. :D
Hey Loo , have you ever heard of Rodney Carrington, surely. He was in Beaumont one night while we were there and some guy in the front started heckling him by saying what he was going to say first. Rodney stops and says look here fat boy I don't come to your job and tell you how to pick up the garbage so let me do mine. The guy just ducked his head and exited the bulding. That was worth the price of addmission, the whole crowd busted out laughing and throwing shit at him. Priceless.
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed May 07, 2008 10:04 am

no i know arti, my throat isn't 100% perfect from the magnesium or anything, but it's soooo much better, 99%. night and day.
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Postby Artifishual » Wed May 07, 2008 10:12 am

:D Better is one step in the right direction!! :D
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed May 07, 2008 10:16 am

so right. i'm hoping the addition of the zinc will square it away a little better for me
toodles eh, hillbilly ol chap.
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Postby Artifishual » Wed May 07, 2008 2:31 pm

I'm taking one zinc in the morning and one magnesium and in the evening one magnesium. Sound aboot right homeskillet?
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed May 07, 2008 3:08 pm

hey arti, i actually thought you were taking it like this:
- 50mg zinc @ breakfast
- 50mg zinc @ dinner
- 500mg magnesium @ bedtime.

BUT you can probably still do okay with splitting your daily magnesium out into 250mg AM and 250mg PM, as you describe - so long as it's between meals and as long as it isn't giving you any mudbutt issues through the day ;)
it's supposed to be best of all to take it at bedtime, from what i understand...

my doc said to take 100mg zinc per day but you might not be as deficient as i was, so just taking a 50mg in the morning could be okay too.

see if you can get your doc to do a zinc test. helps to know where you're at, and when you can take a break. once your serum values for zinc are up around 15 nmol/l, you can ease off :)

how's that did i make sense?
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Postby Artifishual » Wed May 07, 2008 3:45 pm

Yep perfect LOL
Yah I'll get em checked its just that my dr is an hour and half away so it will have to be on my next trip at the end of May. Hey do you have a general physician or a neuro or both? I don't really have a general dr I just have a nuero and uruo hahaha. Really, I had a gen dr but stopped visiting him after my dx. I seem to hardly ever get sick. Atleast with a cold or something like that. Caught the flu at the begining of my rituxan therapy but it only lasted about three days. I asked my nuero about how I was never sick and how my immune was so overactive so to speak, he really didn't have an explination for me. anyhow later homeskillet.

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Postby jimmylegs » Wed May 07, 2008 5:03 pm

ow that is far. i have a gp and a neuro. i have to go for annual checkups with my GP even though i visit the neuro once a year too. my GP is the go to for all my bloodwork. the neuro refers to specialist if i need.

i dunno, what does rituxan do exactly? add brakes to your immune sys? if so maybe you never get colds because your immune sys only has attack mode. maybe with rituxan, it added brakes so hard at first that you had no defenses until your system adjusted a bit, enough to fight off the flu you'd picked up in the start of the therapy.

no idea really, i have never read up on rituxan. i only read about rebif a little in '06 because that's what they had me lined up to take.
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Postby Artifishual » Wed May 07, 2008 5:20 pm

Wow once a year to the neuro? man mine says every two months. Anyway from what I understand rituxan kills the b-cells in your immune system. ok the thought behind this is that when your body reproduces these cells it will produce cells that are better i guess. really you would think i would know more about it. stupid me oh well later
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed May 07, 2008 5:38 pm

yep once a year, roughly. probably because i'm not on any of the drugs so they don't figure they have to watch me so closely for liver enzymes? i should probably check em regardless, from the supplements. even though i've been slack takin em lately. oh ya finally got some zinc today! so now i can practice what i preach again at last ;D
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Postby Artifishual » Wed May 07, 2008 5:41 pm

Good now if something goes wrong from the zinc we will be in the same boat.LOL
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed May 07, 2008 7:16 pm

pssh this boat is fiiine nothin's gonna go wrong. not if you're only at 50mg or a day or even 100mg like yours truly is once again (finally!)

http://www.mostproject.org/ZINC/Zinc_Updates_Apr05/zinc%20low%20risk.pdf

In extensive safety studies undertaken in laboratory animals, zinc has been shown not to be carcinogenic, mutagenic, or teratogenic.9 In addition, the human body has efficient homeostatic mechanisms that regulate the absorption and retention of zinc, which decreases the likelihood of toxic build up in the body.10 Adult zinc toxicity can occur from moderately high intakes of zinc (> 150mg/day — approximately 10 times the IZiNCG RDA) over a long period of time or from ingestion of >1 g of zinc (more than 60 times the IZiNCG RDA) by overdose via supplementation or intravenous feeding.11 Ingesting too much zinc at once can cause gastric distress and the typical signs and symptoms that are often associated with food poisoning.


100mg Zn at once gives me "gastric distress" (just queasy)

still get a test though! check the table in the general discussion thread 'boys girls ms zinc and copper' or some name like that i forget :)

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Postby Artifishual » Thu May 08, 2008 4:42 am

Another sleepless night, this one is maybe my fault. I woke up and could not stop thinking about fishing. LOL So i got up and went. Didn't get a bite, ohwell it was nice being out. Besides the skeeters got to eat too.LOL
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