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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:09 pm 
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a uro-neurologist has offered me this treatment option of having BOTOX injections in the bladder to improve bladder incontinence symptoms,
he said it improves MS patients urgency, frequency and control of their bladder,
you are under a local anaesthetic for 45 minutes during the injections, and the effects last 6-12 months before requiring further injections,

this 'trial' seems promising and as i have this option for treatment am very tempted to go ahead with the injections,

my bladder has been very poor over the last year, passing urine every 45-90 minutes, lack of control and very urgen neeed to goi have
i have nocturnal enuresis every night 1-3 times each night.


but before i have the injections i wanted to hear from others who have had or are still having botox injections in the bladder

how are your bladder symptoms before and after?
would you recommend this treatment?
has anyone heard of good or bad reports of this treatment? any long-term risks/danger?
how often do you need further injections in the bladder?

- im sick of the bladder drugs like tolterodine, oxybutynin, trospium etc, as they seem to weaken my legs and blur my vision

do you get side effects with botox injections in the bladder?]
my dr just warned me if you stop passing urine after the injections i may have to self-catherize,
something which ive never done but hope it isnt too fiddly / difficult or risky with uti's

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:08 pm 
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Here is Dr. Elizabeth Mueller of Chicago's Loyola University speaking about Botox for overactive bladder (urge incontinence) on The Dr. Oz Show last fall. There is a specific mention "for MS"@1:20 in the video:

http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/dr-ozs- ... ideo=16145

Part #2 http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/dr-ozs- ... ideo=16144 mention "for MS"@1:20

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:04 am 
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Thanks Lyndacarol for the links,
but has anyone had botox injections, or heard/read good patient reports of these botox injections?
how good were the improvements in bladder frequency, urgency and control?



Which option would be easier / safer on the human body ....
BOTOX injections once every 6-9 months
or
Trospium - either 60mg once daily or 20mg twice daily


I would of thought taking a daily bladder drug (anticholingeric/muscurinic) would be more harmful on the body than Botox injections in the bladder once every 6-9 months?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:31 am 
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Has anyone had these botox injections in the bladder?

if not, where can i find patient experience with botox injections in the bladder?


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