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Postby scorpion » Sat May 22, 2010 6:58 pm

The two themes -early success and conspiracy.
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Postby eric593 » Sat May 22, 2010 7:09 pm

Don't forget the Cari Loder treatment cocktail:

http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/CariLodertreatment.html
http://jnnp.bmj.com/content/73/3/246.abstract

Unfortunately, it didn't end up helping even her, and she took her own life last year when her health deteriorated.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 14139.html
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Postby Brainteaser » Sat May 22, 2010 7:17 pm

Well, that does it for me - we should just sit tight and accept our fate.
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Postby L » Sat May 22, 2010 7:24 pm

Is anyone suggesting that there is a conspiracy associated with CCSVI (that's what you're talking about, right)? A loosely related effort to dismiss it exists for sure but I think that you are the only person suggesting that anyone imagines an organised conspiracy, no? I have noticed a pattern, and it seems to be that you are convinced that people are convinced that a conspiracy is afoot, perhaps you are right and I've missed it. Who? Where? And why does it bother you so much? I mean, I may be wrong, I don't pay much attention, but I have never heard anyone suggest that such a conspiracy exists..
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Re: history of ms cures

Postby sbr487 » Sat May 22, 2010 8:43 pm



Thanks, Scorpion. Your research is a real eye opener for a lot of MSers like me.
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Postby scorpion » Sun May 23, 2010 8:41 am

No I am not suggesting there is any kind of conspiracy associated with CCSVI. All I am saying is that we have been down this road many times before and we all need to to be cautious about "miraculous claims." When these "quack" cures come along there are common themes. There are testimonies of quick improvements, "the big pharma conspiracy", and an initial rush by people with MS to get the treatment.. Usually the "quack cures' do not make sense based on the scientific information we have on the disease but that does not seem to matter. People are saying it works , so full speed ahead!!! Brainteaser what do you mean by accepting our fate? When we hear all the research regarding remyelination and even attempts to reverse axonal damage I believe we should all have reason to be excited.
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Postby Lyon » Sun May 23, 2010 8:54 am

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Postby sbr487 » Sun May 23, 2010 9:00 am

scorpion wrote:No I am not suggesting there is any kind of conspiracy associated with CCSVI. All I am saying is that we have been down this road many times before and we all need to to be cautious about "miraculous claims." When these "quack" cures come along there are common themes. There are testimonies of quick improvements, "the big pharma conspiracy", and an initial rush by people with MS to get the treatment.. Usually the "quack cures' do not make sense based on the scientific information we have on the disease but that does not seem to matter. People are saying it works , so full speed ahead!!! Brainteaser what do you mean by accepting our fate? When we hear all the research regarding remyelination and even attempts to reverse axonal damage I believe we should all have reason to be excited.


I don't know what response you expected by comparing CCSVI with goat milk etc. Those studies had no basis and most of them were chance discovery. CCSVI was studied in a scientific manner by a researcher. Its not like, "here is a solution that works but I dont know how".

Also, why do you think study is being replicated by eminents at Stanford, Buffalo apart from some of the best IR's in US and other countries?

How come you are so excited about reversing myelin damage and axin re-generation when most of the people might not even see their application for next 10-15 years.

BTW, why to fix myelin and axon issues if CCSVI avoids them in the first place?
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