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Cancer and MS

Postby luvurbro » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:17 pm

Recently my brother was diagnosed with stage 3 Adino Carcinoma of the Sisignoid Colon. He has had surgery to remove the mass and will begin chemo in a couple weeks. Upon finding the cancer he had to discontinue treatments (rebif) for his MS until Dr.s are sure the Cancer is cured. Is there a specific Chemo drug they are using to treat MS? What are the chances that the chemo he will have to take will help the MS or atleast keep it at bay till he is "out of the woods" with the Cancer?
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Re: Cancer and MS

Postby NHE » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:27 pm

luvurbro wrote:Recently my brother was diagnosed with stage 3 Adino Carcinoma of the Sisignoid Colon. He has had surgery to remove the mass and will begin chemo in a couple weeks. Upon finding the cancer he had to discontinue treatments (rebif) for his MS until Dr.s are sure the Cancer is cured. Is there a specific Chemo drug they are using to treat MS? What are the chances that the chemo he will have to take will help the MS or atleast keep it at bay till he is "out of the woods" with the Cancer?


The chemo drugs that are typically used to treat MS are usually ones that knock down white blood cells. This is NOT something that one would want to do when dealing with cancer. Your brother's oncologist should be able to answer questions about specific chemotheropy drugs. By the way, how long has he been on Rebif?

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Re: Cancer and MS

Postby luvurbro » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:16 am

Only been on Rebif for a couple months ...Kept having severe stomach issues...In and out of hospital with "Dyverticulitis"... Made himself an appointment for a colonoscopy so he could treat his MS more aggressively and they found Cancer instead of Dyverticulitis... To say the least he has had a difficult year...Was just beginning to regain a little of the eyesight he had lost in an episode in March and a little feeling in his fingers that he hadn't had in 18mths or so.
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Re: Cancer and MS

Postby jimmylegs » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:24 pm

hello luv,

welcome to the forum and i'm sorry to hear about your brother's health problems.

your brother's msdx and symptoms (eyes, gut, numbness), in addition to the cancer dx, made me think of zinc, so i had a quick search and came up with this study:

Concentrations of antioxidative trace elements – selenium and zinc – in patients with sigmoid or rectal cancers
http://cornetis.pl/pliki/GP/2008/6/GP_2008_6_391.pdf

"Introduction: Colorectal cancer (CRC) is one of the most common neoplasms of alimentary tract in the world. Both its diagnosis and treatment outcomes are still far from satisfactory. Therefore, different studies focusing on determination of preventive measures of the drugs have been initiated. It was found that reactive oxygen species (ROS) are one of many carcinogens in the pathogenesis of CRC, and their pathogenic effect manifests when so called antioxidative protection barrier of the organism is weakened. Two important compounds of this barrier are, among others, selenium (Se) and zinc (Zn) – antioxidative trace elements providing prevention against carcinogenesis.
Aim of study: Determination of concentrations of selenium and zinc in blood plasma of patients with sigmoid and rectal cancers in comparison to the concentrations of these trace elements in healthy individuals.
Material and methods: One hundred sixty consecutive patients were included into the study. Patients were divided into four groups (n=40, each): the control group, patients with adenomatous polyps of sigmoid or rectum, patients with operative adenocarcinoma of sigmoid or rectum, and those with non-operable adenocarcinoma of sigmoid or rectum.
Results: Selenium and zinc concentrations determined in all groups of affected patients were significantly lower than in the control group which supports the involvement of these elements in the inhibition of carcinogenesis of CRC.
Conclusions: Implementation of controlled supplementation with Se and Zn preparations may seem to be beneficial in the prevention of CRC in high-risk patients."

the article is available in full and well worth reading. if you get into the data tables provided, you can see that on average, the zinc and selenium levels in patients are a fraction of the levels seen in healthy controls.

if your brother can request bloodwork, see if the docs will test SERUM zinc and selenium. if i recall correctly, plasma is supposed to be comparable to serum, in the case of zinc at least, but this study doesn't seem to be consistent with that idea.

if he does get some test results i can help you interpret. based on the literature out there, i have pretty solid target area within the 'normal' range for serum zinc. it's a little more variable for selenium, but still would be some useful pieces of info. if he decides to follow up i can help with diet and supplement options for both zinc and selenium. if you are interested in reading more about nutrition in health and disease, you might want to check out some of my 'signature' links below.

wishing all the best to your brother. he's fortunate to have you here for him.
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Re: Cancer and MS

Postby MarkLavelle » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:17 am

I had cancer back in 1996. When I was diagnosed with MS last year, my neuro said that Copaxone was the only safe MS drug for me because *all* the others would suppress my already-damaged immune system, increasing the risk of future cancer.

Copaxone is different than the others because it is supposed to provide a 'decoy' for the misguided immune system parts to latch onto, instead of attacking the myelin in the CNS.

On the plus side, your brother may be able to have both colon chemo and Copaxone at the same time. It's definitely worth asking...

RRMS dx 3/3/11; Copaxone since 12/1/11
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