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pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby flipflopper » Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:21 pm

I have not seen a lot of talk about PEMF. I am posting a few articles to see if it can spark a discussion or if people who have experience with this particular treatment can comment


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Long-term effects of Bio-Electromagnetic-Energy Regulation therapy on fatigue in patients with multiple sclerosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22314716






Treatment with electromagnetic fields reverses the long-term clinical course of a patient with chronic progressive multiple sclerosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9352426





Treatment with electromagnetic fields reverses the long-term clinical course of a patient with chronic progressive multiple sclerosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9352426







Immediate recovery of cognitive functions and resolution of fatigue by treatment with weak electromagnetic fields in a patient with multiple sclerosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9285288






Prospects on clinical applications of electrical stimulation for nerve regeneration.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8496243






Exposure to ELF- magnetic field promotes restoration of sensori-motor functions in adult rats with hemisection of thoracic spinal cord.
Das S, Kumar S, Jain S, Avelev VD, Mathur R.
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Department of Physiology, All India Institute of Medical Sciences , New Delhi , India.
Abstract
Clinically effective modalities of treatment for spinal cord injury (SCI) still remain unsatisfactory and are largely invasive in nature. There are reports of accelerated regeneration in injured peripheral nerves by extremely low-frequency pulsed electromagnetic field (ELF-EMF) in the rat. In the present study, the effect of (50 Hz), low-intensity (17.96 μT) magnetic field (MF) exposure of rats after-hemisection of T13 spinal cord (hSCI) was investigated on sensori-motor and locomotor functions. Rats were divided into hSCI (sham-exposed) and hSCI+MF (MF: 2 h/d X 6 weeks) groups. Besides their general conditions, locomotor function by Basso, Beattie, and Brenahan (BBB) score; motor responses to noxious stimuli by threshold of tail flick (TTF), simple vocalization (TSV), tail flick latency (TFL), and neuronal excitability by H-reflex were noted. It is found that, in the hSCI+MF group, a statistically significant improvement over the hSCI control group was noted in BBB score from post-SCI wk2 and TFL and TTF by post-hSCI wk1 and wk3, respectively. Correspondingly, TSV gradually restored by post-hSCI wk5.The threshold of H-reflex was reduced on ipsilateral side vs. contralateral side in hSCI and hSCI+MF group. A complete bladder control was dramatically restored on post-hSCI day4 (vs. day7 of hSCI group) and the survival rate was 100% in the hSCI+MF group (vs. 90% of hSCI group). The results of our study suggest that extremely low-frequency (50 Hz), low-intensity (17.96 μT) MF exposure for 2 h/d x 6wks promotes recovery of sensori-motor behavior including locomotion and bladder control both in terms of temporal pattern and magnitude in hemisection injury of (T13) spinal cord rats.
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby lyndacarol » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:58 pm

flipflopper – I believe Dr. Terry Wahls credits diet and neuro-muscular electrical stimulation for her dramatic improvement in MS. This NMES sounds like your topic. Perhaps you can find more information at her website: www.TerryWahls.com
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby flipflopper » Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:12 pm

Thanks L.C!

There are some differences between neuro-muscular electrical stimulation and PEMFT.

However, in her book, Terry Wahls briefly talks about it by saying “there are several case reports by Dr Sandyk of secondary progressive multiple sclerosis in which regression of disability is documented. In all cases, pulsed electro-magnet therapy was used, which gradually allowed the patients to recover some degree of function.”
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby blossom » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:30 pm

flipflopper, thanks for this info. i recall touching on this yrs. back in my searches. but for one reason or other it was put on the back burner. we are all made of energy and when out of wack we sputter and spark.

dr. oz had it on about pemf--pretty interesting stuff.
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby LouAnnG » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:34 am

Greetings All: I saw a Naturopath yesterday in Connecticut where I was originally interested in HBOT for M.S., but while I was getting the low-down about that protocol, he demonstrated the Pulsating Magnetic Field Therapy machine. During a general exam, he took this wand-type instrument and spent about 10 minutes gliding it over me. He positioned it 6 inches above me and went from my head down to the toes. I felt a bit of a vibration and something "stirring," but otherwise nothing else. With the appointment over, I paid the bill and left his office. As I walked slowly to my car, I noticed I had a bit more spring to my step. This is a big deal because I don't have an easy time walking lately. Now I think I'll go back for a few treatments and see how it goes. I have nothing to lose pursuing this path. Plus, it may be the nontoxic treatment I've been looking for. This is pretty cutting edge, so I'll see how it goes and report back.
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby LouAnnG » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:41 am

If you Google PEMF there's quite a bit out there. Check out the Dr. Oz video too.
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby blossom » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:49 pm

louAnnG, is this the type you sit in? there is one type when i was calling to get info. and location but they only sold to dr.'s seemed he mentioned chiro.'s. at that time there was noone even near where i live. are you in the states? hope your magnetic treatments keep drawing in positive healing energy. :-BD
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby LouAnnG » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:02 am

Dear F. E., I was at a holistic Naturopath in Trumbull, CT. No, the apparatus is a hand held one. I sat in his office while he scanned the wand-like tool over me. Beginning at the top of my head and holding it steady for about 60 seconds then moving down the body, stopping at the upper chest, abdomen, legs, then down to my feet. I definitely felt a difference in energy level and better mobility.
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby centenarian100 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:34 pm

I would like to see blinded patient/blinded observer studies.

anecdotal reports of improvement in one patient, especially in subjective things like fatigue are not too convincing.

The power of psychology is tremendous. check out the history of Franz Mesmer and you will see what I mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Mesmer
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby LIVINGLOVING » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:06 pm

What do people think about the company Bioness and the devices like the L300 or the H200 ?
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby LouAnnG » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:58 am

Dear F.M., There's no question that many of the posts you see with patient improvements are anecdotal. With a disease like this one, there's simply no panacea and what works for one may not work for all. My experience after having tried many types of treatments, including CCSVI and stem cells, seemed to make a difference for me. And it was a low cost treatment; which is rare. I will simply share and report if this one positive experience with PEMF continues to show good results.
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby centenarian100 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:20 am

LouAnnG wrote:Dear F.M., There's no question that many of the posts you see with patient improvements are anecdotal. With a disease like this one, there's simply no panacea and what works for one may not work for all. My experience after having tried many types of treatments, including CCSVI and stem cells, seemed to make a difference for me. And it was a low cost treatment; which is rare. I will simply share and report if this one positive experience with PEMF continues to show good results.
Best, Lou Ann


I'm not saying it doesn't work. I just want it to be tested formally.

I can treat brain cancer with a front kick to the groin with my golden high heels dusted with herbs. It will work sometimes, and those people might be bragging in online forums about how great I am. Nonetheless, if you want to see if my treatment actually works, you have to test it (I'm imagining a blindfolded brain cancer patient getting blasted in the nads with a "sham" black high heel sans herbs :lol: )
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby JeanDeEau » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:23 pm

LIVINGLOVING wrote
What do people think about the company Bioness and the devices like the L300 or the H200 ?


First off this looks like an attempt to hijack a thread.

Second of all, there is no doubt at all that direct nerve stimulation works. It is not the same as pulsed magnetic therapy, which is just a micro version of an MRI without the imaging.

There is an English system similar to Bioness. They have a group on Yahoo Groups: look for something like Odstock Stimulator, and it should come up.
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby miri » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:25 am

OK, this is actually my 1st post on these MS forums. I came across this thread (during searching re: CCSVI versus Stem Cells), so i hopped on to state my past PEMF experience.

I have tried various types of these modalities in the past, and they've had zero effect on me.

To name only some:

I'd visited a practitioner who had VIBE machine and said it had cured her from being in a wheelchair.
I had 2 or 3 sessions with it during my visits to her. I felt ZERO therapeutic effect.

Another was the QRS mat (with pemfs). I kept it on my bed, sleeping on it, while it was pulsing. All according to the instructions. That, too, had zero effect.

There were so many therapies/ISTS that i'd tried over the decades (including dental amalgam replacement of 17 fillings, costing over 10K which I could NOT afford) only to lose lots of money & more & more chunks of whatever soul I had left.

On the other hand:

Diagnostics based on Quantum Physics (i.e. QXCI and L.I.F.E. System) were uncannily accurate, insofar on zeroing in on just those places in my body which were most compromised. But then, when the system was supposed to "correct" me, I felt zero therapeutic effect. Ditto re: ROFES system (which may be even more advanced)

So, since QXCI stated about me:
"homeopathic link difficult due to toxic exposure"...
... I think that all these systems may help those people who are helped by homeopathy (I.E. their body systems have clear pathways, due to less accumulation of toxins, unlike mine)

i myself have been so compromised & inflamed by severe life stress, toxins, metals, parasites & EMFs/of/computers, that it's like nothing helps me.

...well, actually, some foods do help a bit, such as cherry-stuff, yogurts. Also: The only modality out of zillions which I ever actually felt therapeutic effect from, was this one-single stint where I managed to get to the Northern Dead Sea, & dipped in a stinky-black mudpool there. After approx. 10 min. there was this PULL-PULLing effect, as if bad stuff was pulling out of me. I did not experience this at sulphur baths, but rather just the stinky-mud-under-the-sun AFTER first dipping in the salt-sea awhile. Also, subsequently, when trying messy bentonite-clay baths, such as Mountain Rose & other "top-of-line" bentonites, they had ZERO effect. Even Dead-Sea Mud failed to work unless it was on site inside natural mudpools. I suspect medical leeches may act similarly, though i've not had access to same.

btw, I'm electrosensitive, so it's even torture for me to type this.
Reachable via PM. Seems I have Higbee's HSII on ThisIsMS. Frustrated by MSers, FMers, Lymers & Prematurely-Aged-By-EMFers who prefer cryptic jargonian Systems Vs. Intuitive empirical experience. Don't simple truths count for anything anymore?
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Re: pulsed electromagnetic field therapy (PEMF)

Postby lyndacarol » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:41 am

Welcome to ThisIsMS, miri. I am glad you came across us.

I admire your courage to try all these treatments. You will be able to contribute valuable insight to people considering such treatments. Have you investigated a "diet" approach? Dr. Terry Wahls saw a dramatic improvement in her MS with diet and exercise (http://www.TerryWahls.com); she is currently conducting a trial of this approach.

I, personally, think that excess insulin is involved in MS (probably also in fibromyalgia, your diagnosis). Insulin is known as "the fat storage hormone;" if you are overweight, perhaps you have excess insulin. You can request a GP to order a "fasting blood insulin test" (NOT the same thing as a glucose test performed to diagnose diabetes). The insulin test is one of the least expensive blood tests. Optimal results are 3 UU/ML or lower.

All the best to you
My hypothesis: excess insulin (hyperinsulinemia) plays a major role in MS, as developed in my initial post: http://www.thisisms.com/forum/general-discussion-f1/topic1878.html "Insulin – Could This Be the Key?"
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