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Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby want2bike » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:07 am

France has stopped using the Hepatitis B Vaccine due to it's link to MS. Think it would be wise to stop using vaccines because of the side effects which can result.

http://thinktwice.com/hepb.htm
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby HarryZ » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:27 pm

That's like saying we have found a lake with some contaminated water so let's stop taking any water from all our lakes.

Wanna, you can't make generalized statements based on one event. There are thousands of life saving and disease preventing vaccines that exist and your suggestion that we stop using all of them is ludicrous. Do you not have any capability of common sense?
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby gibbledygook » Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:22 am

It's interesting to note the genetic link to an area involved in suppressing amongst others the Hep B virus and how this area is linked to MS. I wouldn't be so fast to rule out Hep B vaccines as a candidate for involvement in neurological or other problems in susceptible genes.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24983760

http://www.thisisms.com/forum/drug-pipeline-f13/topic21380-15.html
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby gibbledygook » Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:37 am

Note that the conclusion of the paper is suggestive of a biological link to MS.

J Clin Virol. 2009 Nov;46(3):202-5. doi: 10.1016/j.jcv.2009.07.024. Epub 2009 Aug 28.
Hepatitis B vaccination and French Society ten years after the suspension of the vaccination campaign: how should we raise infant immunization coverage rates?
Balinska MA.
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In 1998, official concerns were first voiced over a possible association between hepatitis B virus (HBV) vaccination and multiple sclerosis (MS). Despite a number of studies that have demonstrated no such association, ten years on the French population's confidence in the vaccine remains shaken and immunization rates of infants have stagnated beneath 30%. With a chronic carriage of the virus estimated at 0.68%, it seems unlikely that France will be able to control the circulation of the virus. This article analyses attitudes towards HBV vaccination based on recent surveys: not only the public but also the vast majority of "vaccinators" (88%) questions the safety of the vaccine. Physicians opposed to vaccinating infants cite the possibility of adverse events occurring later in life and their lack of trust in the health authorities and the pharmaceutical industry. Both the general public and physicians feel more inclined to vaccinate adolescents and adults, even though it was for these age groups (especially the latter) that neurological adverse events were notified. It appears that above all, the usefulness of the vaccine and its safety profile for young children should be explained in understandable language by all those involved in public health, including the media. However, when opting for public health policies on the basis of statistical estimations, the importance of individual cases (e.g. MS in the family) should not be overlooked both for biological and ethical reasons.
PMID: 19716764 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby want2bike » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:16 am

Children are being killed everyday because of this useless vaccine. Babies do not have a risk for the Hepatitis B virus. They do not have unprotected sex or use dirty needles which is how the virus is spread. By the time they are old enough for sex or using dirty needles the immunity of the vaccine is gone. They DO have the risk of sudden infant death syndrome. They also have the risk of getting an autoimmune disease later in life. Anyone having children should ask the questions what are the risk and what are the benefits. The risk are greater than the benefits say NO. Injecting these poisons in the new born babies is a crime against humanity.
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby lyndacarol » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:22 am

gibbledygook wrote:It's interesting to note the genetic link to an area involved in suppressing amongst others the Hep B virus and how this area is linked to MS. I wouldn't be so fast to rule out Hep B vaccines as a candidate for involvement in neurological or other problems in susceptible genes.
http://www.thisisms.com/forum/drug-pipeline-f13/topic21380-15.html

In addition to Hep B vaccines, I nominate the BCG vaccine as "a candidate for involvement in neurological or other problems…" I am convinced that vaccinations, like medications, have unintended consequences. The BCG (Bacillus Calmette-Guérin) vaccine, intended to ward off tuberculosis, may be able to restart insulin secretion in type I diabetics.

The BCG vaccine is required for school-age children in the UK (I believe it contributes to the prevalence of MS there by exactly this mechanism of affecting the pancreas and its production of pancreatic enzymes and amount of insulin.).

Dr. Denise Faustman, Director of the Immunobiology Laboratory in Boston, seems to have found a way to restore insulin production and, thereby, reverse type I diabetes.
In the following interview she is talking about using multiple BCG vaccines: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/192352 ... t-diabetes

Here is a Bloomberg article with more details: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-0 ... or-tb.html
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby HarryZ » Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:35 am

want2bike wrote:Children are being killed everyday because of this useless vaccine. Babies do not have a risk for the Hepatitis B virus. They do not have unprotected sex or use dirty needles which is how the virus is spread. By the time they are old enough for sex or using dirty needles the immunity of the vaccine is gone. They DO have the risk of sudden infant death syndrome. They also have the risk of getting an autoimmune disease later in life. Anyone having children should ask the questions what are the risk and what are the benefits. The risk are greater than the benefits say NO. Injecting these poisons in the new born babies is a crime against humanity.


Again, that doesn't mean that because one vaccine is suspect you are being responsible by telling everyone that all vaccines are bad and should not be used. No wonder your credibility on TIMS is non existent.
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby want2bike » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:07 am

If you want to do the vaccines at least investigate the ingredients and decide if you want these things in your body. These toxins make people sick. If you don't think these things will harm you go a head and get the vaccine. I do not want to take the chance.

http://www.naturalnews.com/035431_vacci ... s_MSG.html

http://vactruth.com/2013/08/05/doctor-v ... gredients/
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby HarryZ » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:37 am

want2bike wrote:If you want to do the vaccines at least investigate the ingredients and decide if you want these things in your body. These toxins make people sick. If you don't think these things will harm you go a head and get the vaccine. I do not want to take the chance.


That's a far cry from your earlier advice of telling everyone not to use all vaccines, period! I agree, if you feel that vaccines aren't for you then take the risk by not using them. Get bitten by a rabid dog and not take the vaccine, you have an 80% chance of dying. Be exposed to smallpox and not take the vaccine, good luck to you.
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby HarryZ » Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:37 pm

gibbledygook wrote:Note that the conclusion of the paper is suggestive of a biological link to MS.


They have been researching MS for over 70 years. Nobody yet has been able to determine the cause of the disease although many theories abound. So I find it surprising when any researcher suggests "whatever" may be linked to the disease. More theories, more questions but certainly no conclusive answers.
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby Kronk » Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:15 pm

The use of the Hepatitis B vaccine started in 1986. MS goes back long, long before that. The orignal Hep B vaccine was actually blamed for the outbreak of HIV, which was completely false. People fear what they do not know, and very few know anything about vaccines. If you think the few anti-vaxers are more intelligent than hundred's of thousands of scientists, medical professionals and researchers who say vaccines are safe then so be it. Believe the conspiracy theorists and quacks if you choose. But my children are protected against the real dangers.
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby want2bike » Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:21 am

This article seems to suggest that these people making the vaccines sometimes make mistakes and put the live virus in the vaccine. Like the people who got meningitis in their steroids. It is bad enough injecting formaldehyde, aluminum, mercury, antifreeze and various other toxins in your body but what if someone makes a mistake and gives you the live virus. The effectiveness of these vaccines is questionable and not worth the risk. If you want to be safe from disease make you body healthy. Injecting poison in the body will not do it. Could be vaccines are the reason we have all these sick children today. It is very concerning all these angry children walking into schools and shooting up the place. Anyone have a better explanation for this?

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... =578691193

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... =577327080
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby HarryZ » Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:05 am

want2bike wrote:This article seems to suggest that these people making the vaccines sometimes make mistakes and put the live virus in the vaccine. Like the people who got meningitis in their steroids. It is bad enough injecting formaldehyde, aluminum, mercury, antifreeze and various other toxins in your body but what if someone makes a mistake and gives you the live virus. The effectiveness of these vaccines is questionable and not worth the risk. If you want to be safe from disease make you body healthy. Injecting poison in the body will not do it. Could be vaccines are the reason we have all these sick children today. It is very concerning all these angry children walking into schools and shooting up the place. Anyone have a better explanation for this?


And sometimes car manufacturers produce faulty vehicles, we buy fridges and stoves that don't work, milk from the store is sour when opened etc etc. When people are involved in the process you will get mistakes made but when it involves a person's health and well-being the mistakes are exacerbated.

While some vaccines' effectiveness can be questioned, the VAST MAJORITY of them have been providing a level of health for us that was unknown in previous generations. Do some people become very sick or perhaps die from a vaccine....yes, but the occurrences are very, very small and when compared to the success of vaccines there is no dispute whether they are beneficial to our health. It's only the fear mongering by people like you, Wanna, that focus on the small problems and try and make them commonplace.

And I thought that you couldn't get any lower than some of your previous posts but saying that vaccines are the reason that young people are walking into schools and shooting up the place....well I can only relate to a previous poster's comment that good diet certainly isn't a cure for terminal gullibility!
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby gibbledygook » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:29 am

I just wanted to repost the link below as I see my previous post put the incorrect link in, doh.
It's interesting to note the genetic link to an area involved in suppressing amongst others the Hep B virus and how this area is linked to MS. I wouldn't be so fast to rule out Hep B vaccines as a candidate for involvement in neurological or other problems in susceptible genes.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24983760
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Re: Hepatitis B vaccine

Postby want2bike » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:09 am

We are not talking about a car here. These are real people losing their lives because of a procedure which does not work. One person in the video got the measles vaccination and then got the measles. People get the flue shot and then get the flu. It happens all the time. The vaccination do not work. The only people benefiting from the vaccines is the drug companies, the doctors, and our government. All they have given us is a bunch of sick children that are angry. This is not rare. The rate of autism has gone to an alarming rate. These children are being poisoned and the doctors see this everyday and do nothing about it. I feel sorry for the people in the video but it is hard to understand how they can be so stupid. Their first daughter was ruined by vaccination and they know it. They decided for the second daughter that they would try and choose the safe vaccine. There are no safe vaccines. They all have poison in them. Then the doctors tell them they will not treat their children unless they get vaccinated. That is the best thing that happened to them. Why would you want treatment from someone who has made you sick. If you want good health have to stay away from these doctors. They have forgotten the oath to do no harm. They are a leading cause of death in the country. If you have a broken bone go see a doctor otherwise keep your body healthy and there will be no need of a doctor.


http://www.healingdaily.com/Doctors-Are ... the-US.htm
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